<p>Thanks for the info every bit has some use.</p>
<p>Generally I think your a student to your credit that stands out from the masses, so in your case it's a pretty easy call. With the common application system now and only $30 online to apply I think a overwhelming number of applicants have applied to USF, UCF, UF, and FSU. The defered pots which I have been told are very large are just full I expect with a bunch of kids that all look the same. How in the end they seperate them is anybody's guess. You would love to be a fly on the wall at some of these admission offices to see some of the charts, admit rates, housing deposits, and numbers of applications/denials/deferal/accepts.</p>
<p>"you should be fine. UCF, FSU, USF accepts everyone. 65% acceptance rate is pretty high. Just don't apply to go to those schools in May....cuz by then the freshmen class is full"</p>
<p>Per Kiplinger, FSU's admission rate is 62% which is the same as Penn State's. Other schools that accept "everyone" are U of Washington with 67%, U of Georgia with 65%, NC State 66 %, Georgia Tech 67%, Virginia Tech 70%, U of Wisconsin 68%, Texas A&M 70%, U of Illinois 76%, Indiana U 85%, U of Iowa 84%, Ohio State 74%, Purdue 85%, and the list goes on and on. I guess everyone can attend any of the schools listed above, who would've thought. Using your criteria, FIU with a 47% becomes one of the best schools in the country. BTW, UF's rate is 52%.</p>
<p>Notice also that that he omitted UF from his list in comparison with Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT and Stanford. It's obvious he thinks UF is right there with them. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>^^^^^ I guess Princeton Review's stats are the more recent ones. Still, those numbers say that it is more difficult to get into FIU than into UF. Does that mean that FIU is the better school than UF? I think we can all agree than UF and FSU, overall, are better than FIU. So what do those numbers really prove?</p>
<p>I know each school have their own speciality and they require alot of different things. Florida colleges are all demanding, but they look at many different things. You can have a 3.8 and a 1390 on the SAT and can you get denied so you never know until you try, Its like the keep you guessing sometimes.</p>
<p>Please. Those citations don't prove anything.</p>
<p>UF is a fine state university and currently the top ranked one in Florida. However, it's not a top-20 overall school (you know who they are). It would be extremely hard for any university to break those ranks, much less an overcrowded, underfunded state university. Don't think I'm slighting UF when I write this...I have family members who are graduates of both UF and FSU and they both suffer from the same problems and thus are limited at this point in time. </p>
<p>FSU and UF need each other now more than ever to try and pull the state university system out of the current trough system. Both are the oldest flagship schools in Florida and must be better funded...then maybe each has a chance to improve overall quality. The reason why each needs the other is because the Florida Legislature has lots of graduates of both UF and FSU - to the point that, politically, they need the other to get anything done.</p>
<p>While they may be rivals on the sports field they're more allies than anything else everywhere else. ;)</p>
<p>FSU MBA: actually... Georgia Tech's acceptance rate is 69% (nearly 70%). i've had classmates rejected from UF but accepted into Georgia Tech. i initially thought Georgia Tech was more selective than UF. I was bewildered by how my classmates were rejected from UF but accepted into GT.</p>
<p>for FL applicants here are some other colleges to consider to apply, if the larege state universities are not appealing</p>
<p>Rollins College -private institution in winter park (near orlando). gorgeous campus.
New School of Orlando College- in sarasota. ranks #1 in public LAC</p>
<p>twista, It seems that you are one of the small minded people who actually gets offended by people about about the rival school to UF. Believe it or not, not alot of people are interested in UF. It's the watered down FLORIDA PUBLIC version of an IVY and they need to stop trying to hard. All UF cares about is making sure their diversity balance is up no matter what students I left out. UF has nothing on FSU but a high ranking football/basketball team. Get a life!</p>
<p>bbecker, I don't think you comment about diversity is correct. Diversity is important of course, but with the number of applicants and the cross section of qualified applicants in just Florida I don't think they place any special emphasis on a minority candidate over a majority candidate. The demographis will just comeout of the normal applicant pool. In my D's case at UF as an adopted Asian it clearly didn't make any difference and the one Florida policy would not permit this type of thing any more as far as any prefered treatment. As a parent of a minority child and knowing how she thinks about herself and how we think of her these types of comments aren't especially helpful.</p>
<p>Had a change in status on the UCF website this morning, My D's grades have been received and sent to admission committee for final review. It does have the additional comment that it maybe delayed due to the overall strength of the applicant pool.</p>
<p>I'm wondering how some people thing that UF winning and being number 1 is going to benefit them. Are you on the team? no! are you getting a ring? no. You go to UF and your part of the celebration abd braging rights, sports has nothing to do with the type of education you are going to recieve at either school.</p>
<p>Ray111, Sorry but this is all I heard from people when I was accepted to UF. I go to a very competitive high school, there's traditional high school and magnet high school. I don't know if its true or not but according to the magnet kids they have a better chance into a high ranked university then the traditional students, that's because they get all this money from the state and they have the best tech and equipment and the traditional kids get all there hand me downs. They get new computers every year with the latest windows and the other kids still had windows 98. When I got accepted I got a lot of "its because your a minority" made me feel like I was being accepted to become apart of the diversity balance, because of what everyone who got rejected was saying, and they never bothered to ask me what my stas were.</p>
<p>Ray111- I am keeping my fingers crossed for your daughter on both the FSU and UCF admissions. Both those schools are wonderful choices. I have many friends whose children are at both schools and everyone is happy with their choices. As you know, college acceptances are not a given. My neighbors son is also waiting on FSU (was deferred back in November for test scores). He has a 4.2 GPA from our "A" rated local public school, but only a 1070 SAT. He retook the SAT in January but only managed to raise his score by 10 points (to 1080). BTW, he was accepted at UCF and will be very happy to attend should FSU (I think his first choice) not admit him on March 28.
I follow these threads (Florida college admissions for kids with above average but not stellar stats) pretty closely because my second child will be applying this summer to UF, UM, FSU, and UCF. She has similar stats to Ray111's child with no hooks or amazing EC's to bolster her application. I do not believe that she has a chance at UF (even though her sister is a current Gator). UM is borderline (her private prep school has a good relationship with UM). FSU and UCF are, I believe, good matches but NOT SAFETIES for her. Nothing is set in stone in college admissions these days. Good luck to this years applicants. Please post on March 29 and let us all know what the outcome is.</p>
<p>Seician, thanks for the kind words and comments. Others posts from other parents like 2 noles are very helpful.</p>
<p>My D as you know was is an opposite to your neighbors son, no issues with test grades but lets see the marks. She is a very accomplished dancer and works at that 10-12 hours per week along with a number of other activites she is involved with that we made sure were on her App's. She has won many awards and dancing has been her passion since she was three years old. Like your neighbors son she would go to either UCF or FSU, both I agree are wonderful schools. I have a little bias towards UCF since for a number of reasons perhaps it makes more sense, but in the end I can except either. The UCF decision which we are looking for I guess could be a bellweather of sorts.</p>
<p>In my mind it comes down to the following, she didn't make the first hurdle for EA so they asked her to do more on marks and she did the best possible outcome. Also while not asked for she did raise her test scores from here previous scores. The endless reading that some of us do points to the importance of upward trends in grades, strong senior schedule and strong senior level performance. But I wonder how much that really gets factored in at the end assessment/decison. I could be wrong but based on what I seem to have heard and what I have read that FSU tends to be a more batch oriented mechanistic process vrs UCF where I think the process does enable more of this to come out in a traditional admission committee process. I tend to think borderline kids perhaps have more of a chance there.</p>
<p>UF is just over the top, they shouldn't call it the University of Florida but rather the University of the upper 5% or 10% of Florida.</p>
<p>Nobody mentions UNF but for students having difficulty getting into one of the top universities in Florida, it provides an excellent value option. They have a beautiful suburban campus in a nature preserve, near a large city Jacksonville and the east coast beaches. The school is very friendly and smaller than some of the others. They offer very generous scholarship money for top candidates who are accepted by January. They even have a combined UNF/UF dental program, school of nursing and Coggin School of Business.</p>