four years in CC to transfer to UC?

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<p>haha @taking classes twice. No, there are many I still want to do and others I have to. I had to work hard for those A’s and B’s, especially at SMC!</p>

<p>Hmm, let me see, ok subject block wise, that are <em>UC</em> transferable off top of me head that aren’t a part of the specialized programs, which are generally only CSU transferable. </p>

<p>Poli Sci block minus Into to Politics:
American Government and Institutions: A
Comparative Politics: B
International Relations: A</p>

<p>US History block:
US History to Reconstruction: A
US History after Reconstruction: B
California History: P option since is an elective but fulfills multicultural and california prereq</p>

<p>Western Civ:
Early to 1440ish: B
1440 to present: A</p>

<p>Art History: all complete in order
Early Christian/Prehistorical: B
Medieval: B
Baroque: A
Modern: A
History of Architecture: A</p>

<p>History of Photography:
Early to 1925: A
1925 - modern: B+</p>

<p>History of Cinema:
1895-1950: A
1950 - present: A -
Film Genres/Noir : A</p>

<p>other UC transferable Photography and film classes: A, A, A, A, A-</p>

<p>Journalism: B
Mass Comm: A</p>

<p>Speech:
Fundamentals of Speech: A
Argumentation: A</p>

<p>Philosophy:
Knowledge and Reality: A
Logic: A</p>

<p>General Psyche: A
Modern Psyche: A</p>

<p>Geo-sciences:
Physical Geography: A plus lab: A
Physical Anthropology: A
Physical Geology: B
Earth History: B
Oceanography: A
Weather and Climate: B
Environmental Science: A
Nature Studies and Conservation: basically ‘Environmental Biology’: B</p>

<p>Geography of California: A
Geology of California: A
Environmental Studies: B
Urban Studies: B</p>

<p>Cultural Geography: A
Cultural Anthropology: A</p>

<p>Micro Econ: B
Macro Econ: A
Intro to Business: A
Accounting I: A</p>

<p>There are others but many of you will prolly recognize many of these doing GE I figure</p>

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<p>Best quality education I received in the CCC system in ranking order:</p>

<p>SMC
DVC
PCC
Foothill
De Anza</p>

<p>other quality CCC’s I’d recommend and/or want to attend:
SBCC (ranked between #3 and #4 in transfers which knocked DVC from #3 place after 30 years)
West (Breast) Valley College</p>

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<p>Best quality education I received in the CCC system in ranking order:</p>

<p>SMC
DVC
PCC
Foothill
De Anza</p>

<p>other quality CCC’s I’d recommend and/or want to attend:
SBCC (ranked between #3 and #4 in transfers which knocked DVC from #3 place after 30 years)
West (Breast) Valley College down the street from De Anza but on the semester system</p>

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<p>@kmazza: </p>

<p>Holllly crap. I didn’t think I’d ever get beaten, much less that badly. TEN years?! I’m not even sure I could handle that. My hat is tipped to you, good sir!</p>

<p>And you somehow had more bad luck at CCs than I did. Wow. You’re like the black cloud of program death wherever you go.</p>

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<p>haha, yeah well I did have hopes too and tried to transfer out until the dot com bust and budget crisis happened and since then everything has gone to hell. I’m glad I decided to rip up my credit cards in 2003 and stopped purchasing items I didn’t need so have zero debt.</p>

<p>I was thinking about my future too much that I started not to enjoy living in the present. I really wanted out to capture the ‘college experience’ until realized it didn’t matter where and that it was really up to me to create positive memories and to just enjoy the ride and see what happens. Now I couldn’t care less if the world falls apart around me and just keep chipping away at classes. </p>

<p>Ironically enough in retrospect, being a highly skilled and experienced technician gives me an edge over competitors in my field with a bachelors or masters degree who can end up pricing themselves out of the market these days. Personally I don’t think enough people research the job market within a society and tend to follow trends which is risky. I’m glad I do what I love and get paid well enough.</p>

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<p>@Ray</p>

<p>Dude you’re not alone, I’m gonna end up being at my CC for four years also. I changed my major this semester and decided to stay another year rather than transferring with what I have.</p>

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<p>@MrBurns:oh.well i realize is still not too bad to be here at a CC if your trying to accomplish something useful.plus,no debt!</p>

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<p>by the way,there was no intention for a weird smiley face on my reply.idk why it did that.lol.</p>

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<p>@kmazza</p>

<p>Sorry for taking so long to reply, I spent 16 hours or so yesterday asleep working off a 48 hour cold. I’m better now though. Yeah, Pipeline was interesting, so was WebCT Vista. I like Pipeline a bit better than what WVC has set up. The only thing that sucked about WCT vista was the eastern time thing, I can’t tell you how many assignments I bombed first semester trying to get used to the 3 hour time difference. One non-WebCT example was an independent site for Critical Thinking Philosophy that reversed to Eastern time and made me bomb a test (but I got 20/30 points back on an extra credit question, got an A in the class annd shouldn’t have even been able to take it without Philo 100)</p>

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<p>@kmazza: Props for sticking with it, man! That’s awesome.</p>

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<p>@Itachirumon Ya, I’ve heard good things about Pipeline even though I’d personally rather be inside a classroom. I’m thinking I may do 12 units on the Pipeline before physically attend SBCC if don’t land the job I want down there, guess will just have to wait and see. I use to not like Web-CT but once you get use to it, its not so bad. I’ve heard good things about the professors there who teach online courses which makes a big difference.</p>

<p>Thx Grimes, I wish the best of luck to you too man. Now all I really have to do is a year of Calc and Chem (plus Botany) to get my Environmental Science degree but just hope it doesn’t drag down my overall GPA. I know I can do it but they just tend to be time consuming which has always been an issue with balancing work and school and the high cost of living in California.</p>

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<p>Ray - you’re definitely not alone. Plenty of people take more than 2 years at community college for various reasons. I have a flawed past and don’t count actually seriously attending until I was 22. From that point on, I took two years to complete everything. Technically if you count everything together though, it’s more like 5 years. (In between I got married and had a baby - was in school right up until my due date). </p>

<p>So I took a year off to be a mom and now I’m transferring at 25. I feel old, but you know I don’t care about that anymore. The end result is what is important. Work hard, stay in school, you’ll be fine.</p>

<p>@ Grimes: Way to stick to your dreams! </p>

<p>And yes, in my experience be wary of counselors. I have found some of them to be pretty unhelpful. Once I went into an appointment more informed than my counselor was. Definitely do your own homework & use them more as a guide. Try to meet with a few different ones and make sure the facts are lining up.</p>

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<p>What I don’t think some people understand nowadays is that it was quite normal for people not to settle into a career path and job they liked until their 30’s or 40’s. Many of the people who rushed into a career path to please their parents early on actually went back to school to do something that brought them greater personal happiness. They began to realize that life is actually quite short in retrospect and to do something they had no interest in was not worth the personal sacrifice of who and what they were about. </p>

<p>Also was the issue of many following these trend bubbles that had to return to college to be re-trained again. Not only is technology changing rapidly but with every change of the guard, there usually is a shift in how government, business, and law operates. </p>

<p>Then there is the issue of young students thinking that if and when they earn their BA that businesses will lay out the red carpet and start you off with a managers salary. There may not be company loyalty or stability these days but it really isn’t uncommon to expect a good 5 years of dedication before you gain stride in a field and the respect and confidence that comes from experience from peers. </p>

<p>Numerous studies have been done with Q&A from students used for statistical data. Nearly 100% of people 18-24 claimed they would attain advanced degrees, land a good job, make lots of money and buy a house by 30. </p>

<pre><code>The attitude was that the ones who couldn’t do that must be stupid and lazy. The problem is that the numbers don’t gel well with actual statistics. In regards to college, barely 30% complete their first 2 years worth of classes, barely 25% complete a bachelors degree, barely 12-16% barely attain a masters, and only 1-2% earn their PhD.
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<p>Ahhhh, then you have the life issue. This is where it gets interesting and tragic since I have and sure many of you will at least witness and hopefully not personally experience. For each generation I would say its about a third that through their 20’s that just don’t make it which doesn’t have to do with a person being stupid or lazy. That includes death by accident, violence, or disease. Whether it was a city or suburb environment I’ve seen many 20 somethings lose their lives right in front of my eyes due to uberviolence that otherwise could have been prevented. Add on top of that alcohol and substance abuse, suicide, depression, failed relationships, or people too young to rear and take care of children being torn apart on the inside and you will realize that 30% is not as exaggerated as it first seems. It’s downright tragic how much humans can take each other for granted and be cruel to one another when many share similar struggles. One of the reasons why I love earthquakes is it shakes people from their bubbles and many of the issues that divide one from another break down and people are peachy as pie just to be alive. Odds are u will witness a big one!</p>

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<p>@melowe:thanks.i guess the only problem i have is why all these univerities claim that it takes 4 yours to finish a degree when in reality it is not completely true,especially engineering and science programs.This is what confuses me the most.</p>

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<p>@Ray - I think it’s one of those things where technically speaking, you could do it if you had no other time constraints. But realistically for a lot of people that 4 year curriculum doesn’t always work out.</p>

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<p>@kmazza: Exactly, and that’s the tough part. Cali is ridiculously expensive. I’ve been on my own since 18, but financially I’ve always been somewhat self-reliant (started working at 14, worked full time from 16-current to support myself and my family as much as I could.) So yeah, I have that perspective for sure. It’s tough, but it makes you want something better all that much more. </p>

<p>@melowe: Thanks! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>And yes, beware of counselors… best advice I can give.</p>

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<p>Yes, and I respect that you went out on your own at 18 in today’s world, I truly do. I certainly do not look down on students staying home until 24ish or when they finish up their BA. My parents are ol school money who made me work for everything even though I grew up around spoiled whiny rich kids. I started working at 14 and by 16 had earned enough to buy my own car and get my own top half of a house and supported my girlfriend that lived with me while I finished HS. That would be unheard of these days.</p>