Frats at Vandy

<p>I posted in the thread years ago and now that I go to Vanderbilt I will give my opinion. Ranking within tiers is random, just throwing them all into 3 groups.</p>

<p>Top:
Beta (not a fan but can’t deny their presence, great parties)
SAE (great day fratting, hot girls)
KA (gaining more respect on campus, good day fratting, becoming less Southern)
Sigma Chi (nice guys, dedicated brothers)
Pike (everyone seems to love it or hate it, still a big coke scene)</p>

<p>Middle:
ATO (a few good parties a semester, good guys, changing but unseen for better or worse)
Phi Psi (best pong rules on campus, parties never really stand out there, always on probation for something)
AEPi (nice guys, throw some pretty good parties, just don’t seem to pull in really big numbers)
DKE (worst until old Phi Delts joined, getting less sketchy and more respectable, still pretty small though)
BYX (not a fan…dry house but pull in the girls somehow)</p>

<p>Horrible:
Lambda Chi (huge female fanbase…of girls you’d never want to hook up with)
ZBT (used to be pretty fun but going downhill)
Sigma Nu (don’t. bother. when fabiani is president you know somethings wrong)
Phi Kap (like individual brothers but not taken seriously as a frat)</p>

<p>If I forgot anyone, theres probably a reason for it. Don’t waste your time.</p>

<p>This is a pretty unbiased list…didn’t hype my own frat or lower the ones I can’t stand.</p>

<p>These rankings are pitiful.</p>

<p>Guys, none of people I know in any of these groups listed as “loser” or “horrible” fit that description at all. The worst thing about the greek system is this need among some members to put other groups down to inflate their own egos.</p>

<p>My advice is to keep an open mind, check out all the groups and find a group where you think you fit in. Don’t worry about the stereotypes.</p>

<p>Just a quick question – what constitutes a legacy in a fraternity? My brother was/is a Sigma chi (diff university/graduated mid 80s) and has been telling my son to be sure to check out the Sigma Chi house at Vandy. Would a nephew be considered a legacy?</p>

<p>vandygirl12,</p>

<p>Thats why these rankings are based on fraternities as whole based on categories such as parties, female friends, popularity, dedication, etc. No-one has said anything negative about individual people in the frats. Also, the question posed wasn’t “how to rush” or “what to look for”, so I don’t see the point in your response.</p>

<p>ka got a pretty small and bad class last year, don’t know how it will hurt them. sigma chi is not top tier, they aren’t nearly selective enough, and try way too hard to be cool. plus they have very little respect on campus. dke is on probation for a while too, their future will be interesting.</p>

<p>rankings:</p>

<ol>
<li>sae, beta, pike, ka
1.5. sigma chi, kappa sig</li>
<li>phi psi, aepi, zbt</li>
<li>rest</li>
</ol>

<p>i’m not ranking dke because its somewhat hard to pinpoint. they are pretty respected on campus and throw great parties but a really small house and the upcoming probation could hurt them even more numbers wise.</p>

<p>also, i would bet my life that vandysae is not actually an sae. would guess a dke or a sigma chi.</p>

<p>Can anyone do the same for sororities? I know that it’s about “finding where I fit in” and whatever, but just a general reference would be nice.</p>

<p>just a warning karabee, when you ask for these references it’s hard not to let the stereotypes you’ll receive affect your judgment once you arrive on campus because you’ll quickly search for info to reinforce them. During rush, I wish i had NOT tried so hard to gain “general references” for sororities because it only made my decision harder! I was having an amaaaazing rush experience at one sorority, but I couldn’t help but think about how everyone had rated and described them. And there really are amazing girls in every sorority! I have friends in each so I would know lol Why don’t you try looking at their websites? That may be helpful.</p>

<p>sororities:</p>

<p>the “elite” two:</p>

<p>theta: southern, come from rich and powerful families. viewed by many as the “perfect” sorority. get a really, really consistently strong class year after year. the whole “day theta/night theta” thing/</p>

<p>kappa: northern, girls really into social status. a lot of them are filthy rich and aren’t afraid to show it. sorority is split between the new england girls and the manhattan girls who don’t really get along and clash pretty big time personality wise. often end up getting some of the most popular, sought-after girls of the years class.</p>

<p>other tops:</p>

<p>tri delt: traditionally southern, blonde. somewhat similar to theta but less consistent. becoming more and more eclectic in the types of girls that they choose. masters of the “I could have sworn that girl was southern but she’s from chicago/boston/etc.”</p>

<p>kd: northern, brunettes.the other huge new york magnet. although kds are daughters of the less rich and less powerful suburban new yorkers (vs the upper east side, manhattan kappa girls). also lots of new jersey girls. big jewish representation. tend to not dress as classy/proper as the other sororities.</p>

<p>pi phi: wide mix of northern girls. reputation as big partiers. really a big variety in terms of particular looks and personalities. really down to earth. the types of girls that would be (positively) referred to as “one of the guys”.</p>

<p>chi o: really southern. “good girls”. stereotype as bible beaters but probably the nicest, friendliest girls on campus.</p>

<p>a few years ago people would say kd/tri delt were clearly above pi phi/chi o, but IMO they’ve really become closer than ever.</p>

<p>of course not every girl in the sorority matches the stereotype, you will find all kids of girls in all of the sororities etc, etc.</p>

<p>which sororities usually hang out at which fraternities:</p>

<p>sae: strong tri delt, strong kappa, theta
ka: STRONG theta
beta: strong tri delt, kappa
pike: strong kappa, strong pi phi, kd
dke: strong theta, chi o
sigma chi: lamest 10% from every sorority
aepi: STRONG kd
kappa sig: mix + gdi</p>

<p>thats what i’ve observed anyway. i’m sure other people (vandysae) will have their own opinions. i would also advise everyone to keep an open mind and all that stuff, but somehow every year the stereotypes tend to play themselves out with the new classes.</p>

<p>Reading this thread reaffirms my advice to a friend’s daughter who wants to go South to college that she should pass on Vandy–and I’m an alum. Who would want to go to school with people that actually care about this stuff?</p>

<p>^^ agree with the above poster to an extent, while the above posters are acting immature by objectifying people to this degree, it is still a somewhat “useful” piece of information to someone looking at getting into greek life. In addition, just because some of the campus is into this kind of self-absorbed non sense does by no means overshadow the wonderful education experience that is readily available at Vanderbilt</p>

<p>But then you’ll be that guy… who told somebody not to go to a college… based on two pages on the Internet. In your time at Vandy, did you ever learn anything about, say, checking sources? Or getting more than one? Or maybe not using anonymous ones?</p>

<p>I really don’t get that. Every once and a while someone comes through and acts all indignant and says something along the lines of “this is despicable, I will never subject DD or DS or DSomeoneElse’sD to this! This is shallow and a mockery of the so called ‘higher education’ provided by such a supposedly ‘fine’ institution. Judging people on their blah blah blah blah…”</p>

<p>If you’re so much smarter’n us, why don’t you go actually do some research? Or do you prefer your conclusions to come in easily consumable packages from other people? I know it’s easier to have gut reactions, automatically assume they are correct both factually and morally because, after all, when have you been wrong? But you know, every once and a while, and this may shock you, I know, your initial conclusions are not always correct. Do you walk around looking for things to be offended by?</p>

<p>ok so I’ve noticed a lot of these rankings are reallyyy old and one thing about the nature of vanderbilt greek life is that these things can change from year to year (due to people getting kicked off and rush being weird). so I decided to make an updated ranking complete with descriptions, particularly since several of the frats named earlier don’t even exist anymore at vandy. </p>

<p>Top Tier:
SAE- Southern, rich, big-ass house
Beta- True that they’re falling quickly and are not as good as they used to be, but reputation goes a long way at this very traditional school
KA- once again, not as good as they used to be. very southern reputation
Pike- fun parties, but sketchiest place in the world. lots of new yorkers with hair gel</p>

<p>Middle Tier:
Kappa Sig: random mix of guys, rages hard
Sigma Chi: kind of southern, preppy, very normal guys
Lambda Chi: random mix of guys, fun parties
Deke: used to be good, never really does anything anymore</p>

<p>Bottom Tier:
ZBT- really fun parties, but no one really remembers them
AEPi- gel-heads, weirdos
ATO
Sigma Nu
Phi Delt-really really new, will take ANYONE</p>

<p>Move down Lambda Chi and Deke, move up AEPi and ATO. Maybe move up Sigma Chi and ZBT. Other than that, pretty accurate list.</p>

<p>How would a preppy jewish boy from an east coast boarding school do in rush?</p>

<p>He would do just fine, assuming he is a fun, good kid. No one really cares about religion in the frats.</p>

<p>vugirl2011, was it really necessary to post this in three different threads?? These rankings are riduculous and serve to do nothing other than pad the egos of those in the so-called elite groups while insulting those you deem less prestigious. New students are smart enough to figure out what they think themselves about various groups without you supplying labels. </p>

<p>I know plenty of great guys in the groups you’ve trashed and all I can say is that at least they joined their fraternity because they liked the people involved and not for status.</p>

<p>Hi could a Vanderbilt Student tell me what it is like if you dont rush right away.
Is there a bad stigma for spring rush, what is it like, and is it even worth it. I want to be greek but dont have the grades now. I will get them up and rush when elligible, jw what second semester or as a soph is like</p>