<p>Hi all, I am an incoming engineering student at U of M. I have registered these classes:</p>
<p>Eng 101
Chem 130/125/126
Math 156</p>
<p>It is only 13 credits total, and I believe that i can deal with these classes.
But I heard that even with English 125, the schedule is still doable.
My peer adviser didn't let me to take more than 13 credits!!
Do you think 17 credit courses is still doable as a freshman in fall term?</p>
<p>Also, I am interested in Chemical engineering and Pre-med track.
But I didn't register Orgo although I was placed out from Gen.Chem since I did not want to challenge myself too much. Is Orgo that hard? if so, would taking that as a freshman ruin my first year? I know it depends on person, but I would want a general case...</p>
<p>I thought Orgo was hard but everyone else I knew though it was easy and all got As. I suck at science, so if you’re good at understanding chemistry then you should be fine. </p>
<p>Feel free to not listen to any of your advisers. Actually, I recommend not listening to them. You pay for 18 credits, take what you want. You have three weeks do drop without a W if you find you can’t handle it. </p>
<p>Is there any reason why you want to take English 125 though? Are you planning on transferring to Ross? If so, unless you are out of the Econ requirement somehow, I would recommend taking Econ 101 or 102 instead, since you will need to take one of those for your ChemE degree.</p>
<p>^agreed on not listening to your advisors, but they say it because many freshmen don’t do well during their first year. They won’t do well no matter how many credits they take. If you know you’re going to work hard, disregard what your advisors have to say. And 17 credits is not that bad.</p>
<p>A lot of people say Orgo is hard but I don’t know if it’s really that hard. Few chemE friends tell me it’s not that bad, they were more worried about their fluid courses. On the other hand, premeds usually complain about its hard it is.</p>
<p>I am thinking of taking English 125 because 1) I’m not a native English Speaker, so taking this course may help me to have more polished English, and 2) Writing is Life-long skill. It will become very handy whenever I have to write reports, essays, etc. But Eng 100 is Engineer’s writing class, so It won’t be the most important reason. and 3) Pre-med track requires 2 semester of writing classes. I felt that taking freshman english course and fulfill the requirement ahead would be nice. </p>
<p>I got 4 and 5 on micro/macroeconomics, so I wouldn’t need to take an econ class. Also, I got 8 credit for Spanish that counts toward my Intellectual Breadth requirement, so I wouldn’t take English class because of that.</p>
<p>I just talked to One of Orgo professor at Michigan, and he said that Orgo is very different from Gen. Chem so not taking Chem 130 wouldn’t have great impact. Yet I need to take 2 inorganic chem classes for premed track… Maybe I should just give up on that. It’s causing too much trouble :)</p>
<p>I agree with all of posts. I don’t pay for expensive OSS tuition just to take 3 classes… The choice is mine, but It is always nice to hear some suggestions from other people!</p>
<p>I don’t think you have to actually take 130 for Premed. I knew tons of Premeds who didn’t. You just need to take 260.</p>
<p>For ChemE you take 260 through the first midterm. For Premed all you’d need to do in addition to that is finish that class. The Orgo is required for both ChemE and Premed.</p>
<p>If you placed out of Chem 125/130 you should definitely be in Organic. Chem 125 is a terribly ran course and if you have the opportunity to get out, you should. You’re going to have to take O-chem anyway for ChemE so you might as well take it now. Plus with 13 credit hours it won’t be that much of a load; Eng 101 is very easy and Calc II isn’t hard so you’ll have plenty of time to dedicate towards O-chem.</p>
<p>I’m leaning toward to taking it now, but apparently 211 classes are all filled except those for students in certain program. Does some class open at the week of classes because students change their mind and register different classes? I hope they do…</p>
<p>Also any other thoughts about taking English 125 on top of that? I don’t know if it will be worth it at all.</p>
<p>Get on a wait list for the Orgo lab. Someone will drop it and you’ll get in. If you are very worried, you can stay on the list for the Chem 125 lab (125 alone is only 1 credit) and drop it when you get into the Orgo lab for sure. If worst comes to worst, you don’t need to take the Orgo lab at the same time as Orgo. </p>
<p>Take English 125 if you want to. However, if what you’re trying to do is get better at writing, there might be more suitable classes available. English 125 is just the “for everyone” class, not meant for people who really want to improve on writing. Whatever you do though focus on the instructor and not the time or class. No point taking a class with a bad instructor if you don’t have to take the class at all.</p>
<p>I wish I could put myself on waitlist, but every single lab classes are filled, so I don’t even have a chance to select a class… maybe I should talk to either professor and advisor about this matter.</p>
<p>Addressing needing 130 for medical school, most medical schools will accept UMich’s placement test (though some require a letter, which I don’t think is very hard to get). Last time I talked to an adviser, he mentioned maybe three medical schools where we’ve had issues, so if you’re dead set on any schools you could check that (I think Vandy was one).</p>
<p>Wolverine, when searching for the class you need to deselect “Show Open Classes Only.” Everything it lists with a yellow triangle means you can join the wait list. That is almost every section.</p>
<p>My go-to-guy is David Brawn, who I think very highly of. If you want to learn more about the pre-med track at UMich than you’ll find on these forums, definitely get an appointment with him or Peggy Zitek; they’ve been around for a while.</p>
<p>Okay so now I’m on waitlist… What should I do? Should I just go to the Orgo class although I will still be on the waitlist? or should I go to Gen. Chem class until Orgo class becomes available?</p>
<p>Another question… any opinions on Engr 100 section 100? (biomedical devices) I can take this class or I can stick with Engr 101. I guess it doesn’t really matter, but i just wanted to have more time to dedicate on Orgo first semester</p>
<p>They won’t let you switch Engr101 until classes begin. The biomedical devices one is pretty hard I hear. I’d stick with Engr101 for now if you’re going to add English 125. </p>
<p>As for the waitlist, go to Orgo lecture. You’ll get in.</p>
<p>I thought that Physics and Chemistry are two required courses for all freshman in CoE. Isn’t it?</p>
<p>and Right now I am waitlisted on both Orgo and its lab, so technically I registered only calculus 2 and engr 101. so would see me as a half-time student because I have registered, in reality, 2 courses (8 credits)? I don’t want any confusion on my tuition payment…</p>