<p>since im stuck in michigan for this upcoming summer, i figured it'd be alot more helpful for me to do some kind of intern instead of doing some non-engineering related part time job.</p>
<p>i talked to ECRC and they said its pretty difficult to get one as a freshmen; however, some do get it.</p>
<p>i really want to intern for nx summer, any advice?</p>
<p>Its really difficult. Unless you have previous experience in engineering-related works or you have “connections”, its almost impossible to get an internship. you can possibly get an internship if you have enough credits to be a sophomore and you are taking advanced engineering courses related to the company. If you are going to stay in michigan, I would advise looking for a paid research position over the summer. There are many engineering faculty members looking for researchers for the summer to fill in for those that leave. This will give you engineering experience and its a position thats possible to have as a freshman.</p>
<p>thanks. ill look into that. =]</p>
<p>one way to lie and not really lie is to list on your resume that your expected graduation as April 2012, which implies that you are a sophomore. You dont actually have to be a sophomore to do that because
<p>2) If they catch you on it and make a big deal about it, just say you plan to take extra classes over summer and you plan to graduate within 3 years. Since it’s “expected” graduation, you are not lying, because you “expect” to graduate within 3 years. You did not explicitly say you are not a freshman.</p>
<p>This gives you a leg up because you mislead the companies into thinking that you are a sophomore, but you didn’t actually lie so they wont rescind offers. However, do not explicitly use the word sophomore, nor tell people you are a sophomore. Otherwise you are lying. If they ask you what class you are in, just say, class of 2012. Minor details matter.</p>
<p>Another way to give you a leg up is to declare a minor. Let’s say you see a job that is heavily mathematical, then go to the LSA office and tell them you want to declare a math minor. Then you can list on your resume as a major: XXX engineering, minor:mathematics even though you dont even intend to do any math beyond requirements. Keep you “math minor” until right before you graduate and drop it. Then you can use it on your resume until you graduate.</p>
<p>i have a feeling someone will blast me for suggesting something “unethical” to froshies</p>
<p>wow ha you got skillz!</p>
<p>edit:</p>
<p>wait,but now i think about it, arent they gona see all the classes ive taken? i’ve only taken a few classes so its highly unlikely that they’ll overlook the discrepancy… or do they just simply look at gpa?</p>
<p>as a freshman, you won’t have a gpa. So thats going to be a problem with your idea bearcats since they’re going to ask you directly what your gpa is. You might be able to get away with this next semester. If you tell them that you don’t have a current gpa, you’re almost guaranteed to not be accepted. Also, if you’ say you’re going to take classes over the summer, you probably wouldn’t be looking for internships for the summer. </p>
<p>As for minors, that’ll just play additionally into the factor that you are lieing about trying to graduate early. A minor usually takes up at the minimum, 2 more courses [usually more], which is basically 1 spring/summer semester.</p>
<p>nope. Look, most companies recruit for internship in early January. You will have a gpa by then. It wont work right now obviously. But only high finance/big oil recruits before January, and they usually do it in november. </p>
<p>“wait,but now i think about it, arent they gona see all the classes ive taken? i’ve only taken a few classes so its highly unlikely that they’ll overlook the discrepancy… or do they just simply look at gpa?”</p>
<p>I was never asked for my transcript throughout all my interview process. The only time I was told to turn in my transcript was right before I start my internship, and they use it to verify my GPA because there’s no point for them to look at courses at that point (decisions were already made)</p>
<p>"Also, if you’ say you’re going to take classes over the summer, you probably wouldn’t be looking for internships for the summer. "
Nope. You only need 120 credits to graduate from university of michigan. Max credit per semester is 18. You can petition up to 20 (I am taking 20 right now). Which means if you take all the right classes you only need 6 semesters (3 years) to graduate without transfer credits; with transfer credits it’s even easier. (obviously you arent actually going to take 20 credits every semester, but you can justify you expected graduation date that way)</p>
<p>Factor in minor, you’ll need an additional 10-12 credits in general. That’s one summer worth of class…if you have AP/transfer credits that’s a non-factor and you probably dont even need summer classes mathematically. Oh and remember, declaring a minor doesnt mean you have to complete it. You have until the day before you graduate to drop your minor. If I want I can go declare a polisci minor right now and drop it before I graduate.</p>
<p>It works out mathematically. Point is, you arent lying, and you give yourself a HUGE edge by misleading the company into thinking that you are a sophomore while you are a freshman. </p>
<p>Most companies don’t even ask for transcripts during the interview process. They only ask for official transcript to verify your gpa. Obviously you arent going to bring up the 3 year plan bull crap unless they bring it up and ask you during verification.</p>
<p>Bearcats, what if I signed up for more than 20 credits (I didn’t, I’m just wondering what would happen)? Will it just not let you in wolverine access?</p>
<p>it wont let you sign up over 18. If you want over 18, you submit a petition to your advisor. He/She’ll approve it if he/she feels like you can handle it (mostly based on your gpa or just the vibe he/she gets from you). My advisor said she usually auto approve 19. 20 if you do well in class. 21 in extreme cases but never over 21. But different advisors do it differently. wolverineaccess automatically block you at your limit</p>
<p>Seems like not wanting to fail your classes should be incentive enough for people not to sign up for more they can handle.</p>
those are two horrible ideas @bearcats
@Avery87 Replying to a 6-year-old thread is not a good idea either.