Friend setting goals too high?

<p>I have a friend who's going to be a sophomore, just like me. His stats freshman year are:</p>

<p>S1: 3.2 UW
S2: 3.6 UW</p>

<p>His extracurric is pretty much just tennis and some piano. He's pretty good at tennis, but not like super good.</p>

<p>However, he's less-than-average (I'm sorry for saying this, but it's true) at essay writing, grammar, spelling, and the like. (Ok I'll be blatantly honest--he's ATROCIOUS at this essay stuff) Plus he tends to procrastinate and I don't think he's a really good student. I doubt he would have good recs.</p>

<p>He's horrible at testing, so I'm not expecting good SAT scores.</p>

<p>Yet, he aims to go to Harvard. What do you think about this? It kinda enraged me for some reason that he aims like that when he slacks off, since I don't believe he's going even have that much of a chance at Harvard. (if he even HAS one...)</p>

<p>And I'm having a ferocious debate with him right now on this. Except, it's not really a debate because he doesn't do it properly (not like he knows how to). Psh. Whatever.</p>

<p>he can apply if he wants...but if he's really that bad he doesn't have a chance - it'll shine through in his entire application.</p>

<p>you're just worried that he might get in and you won't - and i'd be ****ed if it happened to me - but its so unlikely you might as well just humour him.</p>

<p>Nah, I just get sick of this, because there are people out there working their BUTTS off to get into Harvard and they're modest about it. However, my friend here is doing HORRIBLY and yet he's being arrogant and overconfident with it. It bugs me. It makes me feel for those who are bleeding themselves for this right now.</p>

<p>when i was a sophomore, this girl in my math class (not honors) kept on bragging about how she would be attending stanford for college. it made me so ****ed off because she SUCKED at math, and i heard she didnt do well on sats. i was thinking to myself "there is no way this dumb ass girl, who happens to have the biggest @ss ive ever seen, is going to get in to stanford. i am taking hard classes, i did okay on the sat, i have a stellar gpa, AND I probably would not get into stanford."</p>

<p>it reallly irked me, like your situation seems to do. i pretty much laughed at her everytime i saw her, and eventually i just didnt care anymore. i got into the college i wanted to go to, and i guess she ended up getting into stanford (she did a lot of debate, and took summer classes there), but didnt end up going....</p>

<p>in retrospect, i think my situation came down to jealousy (as much as i hate to admit it). How can this girl not work hard and get into an excellent school, while i am working my butt off and there is a good chance i wont get into a school like that? that seemed really unfair to me. maybe thats what your situation comes down to as well...</p>

<p>eh, i would just ignore that guy. if he gets in, he gets in (if he doesnt, he doesnt)...the more important thing to worry about is YOURSELF. do what you want to do, get those good grades, do well on the sat/act...and get into the college YOU want to go to.</p>

<p>Well, If your friend is a Millionaire or better, he has a chance.</p>

<p>I have a friend like your's.</p>

<p>He gets B's and C's and he says that he is going to Harvard, not that he's applying, but he's going.</p>

<p>Thanks ustas. I'm going to try and ignore him. The thing is, he's my really good friend and I guess I never saw this side in him before... </p>

<p>How the hell did she get in, btw? What was her GPA and all? From what you've provided me about her, it makes me mad she got in, because it's just not fair to all of the students who are bawling their eyes out because they've tried so hard, gotten perfect stats and still got rejected in place of people like her.</p>

<p>yea, im not sure. she did well in aps junior/senior year, and really pursued the whole debate thing (went to several competitions), and i think taking classes there over the summer might have helped.</p>

<p>when i heard she was accepted, i was surprised to say the least. i have no idea how she got accepted over some of the kids on this site who were rejected. oh well.</p>

<p>As much as his comments may bother you, it's not your place to say whether or not he has a shot at Harvard. Just worry about yourself. You said he's a really good friend...maybe you should give him some suggestions...with tact of course.</p>

<p>People change. You never know...he may become a much better student in the coming years. Freshman year is not that important in the scheme of admissions.</p>

<p>I have people like that in my class, but I know they have little to no chance of getting in, so I just ignore them and laugh to myself. Just worry about yourself, and you'll be fine.</p>

<p>[sarcasm]Always shoot for the moon cause even if you miss you'll land among the stars![/sarcasm]</p>

<p>There are a lot of less-than stellar students that want to go to an ivy school. I dont think they have any idea how hard it is.</p>

<p>EXACTLY, xCchick44. They don't realize how insane the competition is and they're already talking big.</p>

<p>Most are totally clueless.</p>

<p>As I was before I explored CC. :)</p>

<p>I was shocked when I saw the stats of people that didn't get into top universities. CC has definitely been an eye opener for me. However, if you're just starting high school (like I was when I discovered this site), it is very helpful because you know how difficult admissions are going to be and you can do better than if you're an upperclassman just discovering all of this information.</p>

<p>Exactly. Which means you have more time to prepare. And that's why I get slightly annoyed when people post saying that they hate underclassmen snooping around here.</p>

<p>I agree. It's called High School Life, and us underclassmen have as much right to be here as upperclassmen.</p>

<p>Corpus, don't worry about those who hate puny little underclassmen. They just feel threatened. Or downright insecure...</p>

<p>I know people like your friend. So when you say he's being arrogant, you're meaning that he openly proclaims his Crimson Love as a means to make him seem better than others? If so, that's always been around. Does he have a lot of cash? A lot of kids from well-to-do families develop that "I'm going Ivy League" attitude because they're legacies and whatnot... it really sickens me. You know, I've tried to be benevolently blunt and tell people that it's harder than they think, but those whom I speak to just roll their eyes and say "Well, I'm not you". I mean, it isn't a lie to say that you most likely need stellar stats to get into great schools such as Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, etc. And I've given up. Call me a botch, but for the next three years, I'm just going to sit back and laugh at this rampant self-indulgence. Maybe I'll be standing there with an "I told you so" look when they cry from the blow of rejection letters.</p>

<p>Sorry, that does sound harsh, but you know, I'm just downright sick of it.</p>