From A Middle Schooler...

<p>this thread is full of lulz. don’t bother stephen, these people have no idea what they talking about and the girl only listens to what she wants to hear. </p>

<p>even if it was true that law school admissions takes into account extracurriculars, they are actually suggesting that the girl will be listing her middle school and high school activities for her law school applications lol. why don’t you list your kindergarden activities while you are at it? and lol at thinking those activities will give you useful skills for your future career in law.</p>

<p>i love how you take advice from ppl who either do not attend a top law school or have never even applied to law school and completely ignore my advice and stephen’s advice when it is coming from ppl who have gone through the admissions process.</p>

<p>by the way hoopser, it is obvious from your post history that you are not an expert on law school admissions so why don’t you stop giving bad advice to young kids? i am sorry you are delusional enough to take your own advice and that you will likely be attending a crappy school, but don’t take others down with you.</p>

<p>If you’re excited about doing teen court (and it sounds like you are), go for it. But don’t think it will have anything to do with getting into or preparing for law school or a career. As far as that goes, the ONLY thing you should be concerned about right now is getting good grades.</p>

<p>I was not suggesting that any of my suggestions would prepare her for law school, OR that she would be listing them on law school applications. That IS ridiculous. I was simply suggesting teen court as a way to get to know the legal field better, as you work alongside judges and attorneys and also can get invited to sit in on real trials. It’s a great way to see what law is all about, and it’s life changing. I would recommend it to anyone, not just someone preparing for law school. You really should relax, but all of the above suggestions are good ideas for you to look into. And don’t just limit yourself to legal extracurriculars; look into other activities as well. </p>

<p>To all of the haters: I was not advising her on how she could get into law school. I have an extremely limited knowledge of what law school is all about, so I’m not going to provide information about something I don’t know. But teen court I do know. I was simply providing information to a curious person. These suggestions are ways she can occupy her time as a young person. And teen court can be really fun! </p>

<p>Although I would absolutely love to stay and argue (not really), I feel as though this thread, and all others, should be dedicated to positive advice, not bickering.</p>

<p>Holy hell.</p>

<p>I wandered over to this law school section to have a good laugh, I figured this Middle School thread was CERTAINLY a joke parody, given that there is a high schooler over in the grad school forum.</p>

<p>Listen, aubrey.</p>

<p>You should be doing absolutely nothing right now in order to prepare for law school. NOTHING you do right now will remotely increase your chances of going to law school.</p>

<p>Your primary concern should be questioning whether you actually WANT to go to law school, or if this is a passing phase, or if you haven’t looked into it deeply enough.</p>

<p>Given that even high school kids don’t have fully formed brains (no offense) - you are not going to turn inward right now, meditate on career plans, and remotely be able to come up with any sort of insight into you what you might POSSIBLY want to do or be interested in junior or senior year of college, which is 7-8 years away, and a mountain of developmental and experiential years later.</p>

<p>Enjoy being a goddamn kid, and focus on doing well in your schoolwork.</p>

<p>In high school you can join the majority of this board in slaving over college admissions.</p>

<p>Once you are actually in college, you can go about attacking how to get into law school and test your interests, IF you still want to be a lawyer.</p>

<p>Hell, in 7-9 years who even knows what the legal market will look like. It is certainly slowly going down the tubes right now, and hell the billable hour might even go away at some point.</p>

<p>More than likely, even with your limited young experience, you are not even AWARE of the vast majority of potential careers available to pursue, other than the ones see on TV (doctor, lawyer, writer, actor).</p>

<p>By all means keep being a lawyer in your sights for the future, but christ, just be a kid. Pursue interesting hobbies, hang out with friends, do whatever. There is no sense in preparing for law school at this age remotely, nor can you, nor do you remotely know if you’ll have this interest in 5 years.</p>

<p>@Stephen and Plantbottles.</p>

<p>I am NOT a ■■■■■ and I agree with the both of you. Honestly, I too feel this thread is pointless. Good luck.</p>

<p>Wowowowowowow. I’m not saying I’m going to apply for law school this very second. I’m not asking for the magic formula to get into law school. I have seen the medians and averages for different colleges and law schools; I’ve done research. Nothing’s wrong with what I’m doing: I just wanted to know what would get me more acquainted with the field of law. Yeah, maybe this thread is pointless, to YOU. For ME, I just wanted insight from some CCers. Not for someone to ridicule me for creating a thread. I honestly just wanted some advice. That’s it. Not for everyone to tell me to “enjoy life” and “be a goddamn kid”. Trust me, I am. So, thanks to everyone who DID provide me with what I was asking for, I really appreciate it. And to the people harassing me and posters who did help me, well, stop hating.</p>

<p>i didn’t initially want to go into all of this, but i’ve decided to go ahead and do so. please remember, just because you may not like something you are told does not mean it isn’t worthwhile input. you asked for people to share their experiences, so i will – but i sincerely hope that the conclusion you reach is that you should be paying more attention to those of us who have been telling you it is way too early for you to be focusing on this.</p>

<p>i “knew” all thru high school and college that i wanted to be a lawyer. i took a “law” elective in high school in which we not only discussed important cases in american history, but through which i got to sit in on trials, meet with a judge and did legal research at a law library. i found it really interesting. when i got to college i took 4-5 “law” courses – again, really interesting. NOTHING I DID IN ANY OF THOSE COURSES BORE ANY RELATIONSHIP TO WHAT EITHER THE STUDY OF LAW IN LAW SCHOOL WAS LIKE NOR WHAT THE PRACTICE OF LAW WAS LIKE.</p>

<p>i went to a top law school, where i found that MANY of my classmates were not recent college graduates. their range of experiences was vast. i don’t think it necessarily gave them an advantage in the classroom – i did just fine compared with any of them. but i did notice that many with very varied backgrounds did very well in the hiring practice. this was a number of years ago when law firms were hiring and paying obscene amounts of money and everyone at my law school was able to find both summer and permanent employment without too much trouble – but still those students who were older and had prior work experience often seemed to do best in the hiring process. i think i got a better understanding of why that was true when i worked as an associate at a law firm and sat in on interviews – these more experienced students were often much better at presenting themselves. they were more interesting, they knew better what to ask about, they better understood what was involved in working. they were able to talk about more than just having “always” wanted to practice law – and when they did talk about why they wanted to practice law, they had articulate well thought out reasons.</p>

<p>i enjoyed law school and found it intellectually interesting. IT HOWEVR BORE NO RELATION TO WHAT THE PRACTICE OF LAW WAS ACTUALLY LIKE. i am now a former lawyer.</p>

<p>students who are smart and good at debate are often encouraged to go to law school. students who find legal issues interesting think that they will find the practice of law interesting. but most students simply don’t know what it is really like to practice law. but that doesn’t mean the answer is to start researching in middle school – there are issues you simply can’t fully appreciate.</p>

<p>there are 3 key issues about the practice of law that i think most people considering the profession simply don’t appreciate – and i don’t know how easy it is for anyone to truly understand them without having been involved in the practice of law:</p>

<p>1) the hours are awful – everyone considering law will respond to this by saying they know that and they’ve worked hard before. its more than that. most people may be used to working hard and feeling a sense of conclusion and reward. working at a law firm is working in a meritocracy where the reward for good work is more work. you often can’t plan ahead to accommodate your personal life. no, the hours don’t get better the longer you are there – the type of work may change, but those who are successful get there because they thrive on the work and the responsibility. its not a matter of being willing to put up with the hours – you have to understand that they are a part of the job and thrive on it. </p>

<p>2) your life as a lawyer is dictated by your clients – whether you are in private practice or work for the government, a corporation or a not for profit, you have a client, ie generally a non-lawyer who is setting the agenda for what you are expected to do. and law is a business – getting clients, keeping clients is essential. and its a service industry – you are there to do what the client pays you to do (within the bounds of law and ethics). what you find intellectually interesting isn’t the issue – the clients’ needs are. </p>

<p>3) many people who are argumentative or “debate” are attracted to law – they often are encouraged to enter the field. it means that fellow lawyers you deal with often like to argue. not to be obnoxious, not even because they are on the opposing side – it happens with the lawyers you work with. its just the way lawyers are. so when a prior poster said that these threads shouldn’t be about “bickering” the first thing i thought was anyone who can’t take the type of “bickering” that has been taking place on this thread (which in all honesty has been pretty mild compared to what i’ve seen elsewhere on CC) should seriously consider whether they would want to work with a lot of lawyers. </p>

<p>OP – please just take away from this that there is a lot to learn before anyone decides to pursue a career in law. BUT PLEASE also take away that you will do yourself a much greater favor to simply gain more life experience before you start worrying about issues related to whether you should or shouldn’t go to law school.</p>