From academic probation to....Ross?

<p>I'll make it very straightforward given the number of chances threads here. Pulled a ~2.4 freshman year because of all the cliche "I enjoyed the social aspect too much" BS. I'd get a 95% on my exams but get a C- in the class because I slept in and didn't turn in a paper or something retarded like that.</p>

<p>Anyway, I'm planning on applying to Ross next year and graduating in 5 years if I get in. I'm taking a tough courseload (16-17 credits) next year with a couple solid/tough classes (Econ 102, Calc II, upper level history classes, Arabic (i'm not middle eastern), etc.). I went through my schedule with a BBA advisor specifically to show (if I get A's) that I could handle the work and that i'd be "cut out for the bba program."</p>

<p>I also got a summer internship at prestigious company (not mbb or top bulge bracket, but more on the level of UBS or Google) through connections. (I actually leave for it in a few days.). I also secured a job as an assistant to a CPA in a small company for the school year.</p>

<p>Granted exceptional essays (already started drafting), a 4.0 GPA soph. year (~3.2 cumul.) and perhaps a personal rec (if Ross will consider them) from top management in the company i'm interning for, do you think I have a shot as a sophomore applicant? </p>

<p>Any constructive advice/chances would be great. Just don't be too harsh about my freshman year; believe me, i spent the first month of break wallowing in my own regret. :)</p>

<p>Don't make me laugh. You expect to get an A in Calc II? Keep on dreaming. Only the most serious and gifted students pull of an A in that class.</p>

<p>As far as grades go, a 3.2 cumulative doesn't look too good. The average GPA is a 3.6, and its getting more competitive to get in. However, I have heard of people getting in with that GPA, but its rare. I wouldn't get my hopes up even if you manage to write awesome essays and miraculously pull off a 4.0 GPA.</p>

<p>Is calc II really that tough? people on these boards seem to agree that its ball breaking but none of my friends got less than an A- in that class. Maybe it's because they took Calc II honors? I heard it's easier to get an A in the honors class vs. the regular calc II.</p>

<p>Yes, honors is easier. Much better curve.</p>

<p>Math 156 Applied Honors Calc II was not very hard for me. I think I got something like 197/200 on the final. Probably the most successful course I have taken at U of M. That was my first semester freshman year....Very generous curve anyways, really wish I could rock a final like that again some day!</p>

<p>They recently (this past year) changed the honors math curriculum to make it more "harder" because it had the reputation of being easier than the regular math courses.</p>

<p>I believe the curriculum change only applies to 185/186 (Honors Calc I and Honors Calc II), and most likely won't be relevant to the applied honors classes. The change wasn't made because of a reputation of being easier, but more because the class's curriculum wasn't at the level an honors class should be (one effect being students didn't have to work harder to "earn" the honors curve). Now 185/186 includes more proofs and gives students more of a background in the fundamentals of "real math".</p>

<p>2.4 is academic probation?</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Statistics speak for themselves. I don't think the average ross incoming gpa is a 3.2. And getting a 4.0 for all of one year is generally an unreasonable goal if you did dismally your first year. Your chances don't look that great, but maybe you will get in. It depends on how you do ultimately.</p>

<p>Unless you are in the honors program. I know a few friends who got into ross with gpa's around 3.3, but they were in honors and had exceptional course loads and other "soft" factors.</p>

<p>yeah, you can get in with a 3.3, but the types of people who do had crazy workloads. if you can pull off a 3.3 cumulative while taking 18+ credits of really hard classes and having solid ec's, you should be fine. </p>

<p>of course, thats a pretty big "if" at this point.</p>

<p>Don't send in a rec. They won't read it.</p>

<p>If you pull off a 4.0 with a tough schedule next year, you will have a decent shot. However, thats easier said than done. Good luck though.</p>

<p>took your guys advice and enrolled in Applied Honors Calc II (math 156)</p>

<p>I have Econ 102, Calc II, Accounting and a 3 credit Interest rate class for my quantitative classes.
I filled in around the quant classes with upper lvl history classes and Arabic. </p>

<p>17 credits both semesters.</p>

<p>Do you think the criteria would change for sophomore applicants? Any info, hell, even anecdotes would help. I'm sure not many people apply again their sophomore year. Any idea if it would be harder/etc?</p>

<p>Don't worry too much about course selection. My only related classes during my freshman year were ECON 101, Calc II, and STATS 350 (highly recommended even if you took AP Stats since it will help tremendously for OMS 301). The rest were social sciences and humanities type courses, and that was fine. I didn't even take ECON 102 until I was actually in the program. So it looks like you're in good shape.</p>