<p>This year 893 applications were received for the approximately 291 spaces available in the BBA Program starting Fall 2007. The Admissions Committee is on target to release decisions by the end of the day on June 22. Your decision will be sent to the e-mail address provided in your application. Thank you for your patience.</p>
<p>NOTE TO UM ANN ARBOR APPLICANTS:
Given the volume of applications, the Admissions Committee may consider your high school grades when reviewing your BBA application. Your high school transcripts were submitted when you applied to the University of Michigan as a freshman. This is just a FYI and NO FURTHER ACTION is required on your part.</p>
<p>Regards,
Ross Admissions Committee</p>
<p>Second part of the note is somewhat good news for me, somewhat bad. My U-M gpa is below the 50% mark for Ross. My high school transcript is almost impeccable...9/674 students, pretty much all A's, etc. A little of a bummer is that I took AP classes in high school and earned A's, but didn't take AP tests and took some of these classes at U-M and earned high grades. Hope that doesn't hurt me.</p>
<p>lol wow. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but how did you end up with with a UM gpa below the 50% mark for Ross, but ranked 9/674 in high school? Was your high school super easy? Or is UM really really hard?</p>
<p>I took all AP classes in high school, but still found everything to be pretty easy. Second semester my GPA was right at the average (with 18 credits.) First semester i did 3.33, contributing to that was thinking I could coast through everything just like I did in high school. Econ 101 was a rude awakening as I completely bombed the first midterm. I partied on Friday and Saturday nights, but don't really count this as a factor. Needed to just put time into studying rather than procrastinating and doing other things.</p>
<p>I guess I would have slacked off like you did if I had gotten in my first choice school my freshman year (UMich). I got waitlisted and ended up going to PSU. I decided that I'd study study study, get a gpa as close to 4.0 as possible and transfer to UM. I pulled off a 3.93 at the expense of being a nerd! I didn't attend a single party at the #2 party school in the nation!</p>
<p>Even though I'm gonna be a sophomore, I still plan on applying to Ross next year, which means it will cost me an extra year if I get in. I'll be taking intermediate Econ classes and I wonder if I can get all A's/A- first semester. Do you think I'd stand a good chance if I end up having a 3.6-3.7 GPA at UM, combined with a 3.93 at PSU?</p>
<p>I'm not sure if I'll be able to get involved as a team leader etc in clubs/organizations first year coz I'm a transfer student. However, I am doing an accounting internship right now, if that helps. I just wonder if sophomore applicants get a more favorable consideration given that the admissions committee can look at 2 years worth of college grades.</p>
<p>Best way to lead something when you are new to the scene is to start something. That being said, leadership isn't required, but having something impressive besides grades is.</p>
<p>I am looking to join the Michigan Economics society, but I wonder if just being a member will look impressive as an EC. Obviously I won't be able to contribute much the first semester I get there. Starting a club is an impossibility, especially since getting a really good GPA first semester will be really imporant (since my PSU gpa wont transfer). I won't be able to devote enough time to it. </p>
<p>Also, is the new Ross building gonna be ready for use for next year's BBA class? Are the number of spots also increasing?</p>
<p>I think it's a bit ridiculous to be including high school grades in your BBA application. Especially considering we didn't even know that. And we've already had a full year at Michigan, so alot of things could have changed</p>
<p>Well I'm just saying that things we did in high school are considered in our Pre-Admit profiles, and they shouldn't be considered AGAIN in applying as transfers once we are sophomores.</p>
<p>It's like transferring to a different university. If you have a full year under your belt when you apply as a transfer, they won't even consider your high school grades/test scores...</p>
<p>Looking at high school grades could be considered unfair to those who didn't have outstanding high school grades but were good enough to be admitted to UM. They may have decided to take a chance at getting into Ross because they could start over... especially those that chose not to attend another university because of this.</p>
<p>If the yield rate for the freshmen applicant pool is near 100%, then the sophomore admission rate would drop from nearly 1 in 2 to 1 in 3... a very dramatic shift. I suspect this is why Ross is having such a hard time making decision based on one year's worth of information and is trying to fair by looking at more information. It's hard to go up much from a 3.6 average freshman GPA.</p>
<p>MightyNick, according to Scott Moore's April 23rd blog, the new building will not be ready until late fall 2008... so next year's freshmen applicant pool will also be vying for even fewer positions. This is compounded because, instead of 62 pre-admits, next year's class will have about 100 or so. </p>
<p>After that, the class size can increase... but I believe the admission standards have increased for the foreseeable future because Ross is simply becoming more popular. This should only accelerate once the new building is complete and people see how tough it is to get into Ross. For some reason (the theories on which I won't go into here), a low admission rate seems to attract higher quality applicants. Of course, if Ross significantly increases historical class sizes, this alone could mitigate the difficulty of admission... I just wouldn't count on it.</p>
<p>The new facilities, improved class profile, quality improvement in the BBA program, etc. may well translate into a higher ranking in USNews, BusinessWeek, etc. Again, this would also increase demand for positions in the BBA program.</p>
<p>jnpn, Ross previously announced they would consider high school information for the class of 2011... but not for the freshmen applicants for the 2010 class. See Scott Moore's blog.</p>
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<p>No I meant that I thought when transferring to a different university they ask for your HS stuff.</p>
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MightyNick, according to Scott Moore's April 23rd blog, the new building will not be ready until late fall 2008... so next year's freshmen applicant pool will also be vying for even fewer positions. This is compounded because, instead of 62 pre-admits, next year's class will have about 100 or so.
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<p>That's not looking too good for me then. I might have to re-think my decision to attend UM. :(</p>
<p>Don't you think this is unfair for the BBA Class of 2011?</p>
<p>That's a difference of 40 people. I think that's a fair amount of people. Percentage wise it doesn't seem much but when you look at the actual numbers you see a whole different story.</p>
<p>LSA is quality but its obvious that most recruiters go for Business school graduates as opposed to Econ majors.</p>
<p>Andro, where did you see that
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<p>Also Andro, when I talked to my academic advisor today in LSA (for orientation), I asked about the new ROSS buildings. He told me that ROSS would be accepting more students next year due. Once again you said
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Scott Moore's April 23rd blog, the new building will not be ready until late fall 2008... so next year's freshmen applicant pool will also be vying for even fewer positions. This is compounded because, instead of 62 pre-admits, next year's class will have about 100 or so.
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But I don't see where that is within the April 23rd blog. </p>
<p>My point is, nothing is stated specifically in Moore's BBA blogs to say that:</p>
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<li>ROSS would consider high school information for the class of 2011... but not for the freshmen applicants for the 2010 class</li>
<li>There will be less spots available next year (so applicants applying for ROSS in 08). It was stated that the new building won't be finished till late-fall of 2008, but that doesn't mean that they will accept less students; they might even accept more students cause the buildings will be opening up half-way through the 2008 school year</li>
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