from CC to UCB, help pls :)

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<p>Hi there,</p>

<p>i am an international student and i have been accepted into De Anza CC just a few days ago for a major in computer science. I am willing to transfer to UCB (CS) but i am quite worried when i went into assist.org. there seem no Computer Science classes in De Anza College although there are similar-sound classes like Computer Information Systems. Is there any way i can find out about the number of people who have gotten into UCB (computer science) from CC? Whats your take on this guys? shud I go?</p>

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<p>google “university of california statfinder”</p>

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<p>Judging by assist it looks as though you need to complete IGETC at De Anza and Calc 1+2 </p>

<p>Data Structures and advance C programing to finish their pre-reqs those classes where there isn’t a match they won’t punish you for it and you just have to take it at UCB when you get in</p>

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<p>International students are foreign devils! Do not help them for they are taking our limited spots in our beloved universities!</p>

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<p>^LOLLL f-uckedd upp hahaha</p>

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<p>Overall, I think international students are good for the US. I do, however, believe there are some “unwanted” foreigners who come here; the ones who just siphon our tax dollars, resources, and time. I have also seen people who come here just to get the “American” education, then just leave to go back to their home country, while bashing the US at the same time. But I believe there is a substantial overall positive benefit. They provide a lot of intellect, variation, and passion to our economy-I once read that 1/4 of engineering start-ups were started by foreigners in the US. It is also important to be multicultural, and not xenophobic, which is very important-I believe- in the age of globalism. </p>

<p>But it would be nice to see more Americans get priority over international students. I have seen a lot of internationals get into top universities like Cal (which is why Haas is like 60% Asian), even though they are taking citizen’s spots. I agree that most of these people have superior “stats”- through whatever means they can- but what bothers me is they, their parents, and their grand parents have not paid taxes to fund these schools. </p>

<p>Try going to China, Mexico, .etc and see the hypocrisy. Many of the foreigners there are treated a lot worse than those who come to America; which is one reason I am glad my grand/great-grand parents immigrated to America. </p>

<p>Overall, though, I am glad to see international students come to America. They see the fortune. To me, it means we are still the top in education, which is a good sign these days. It kind of makes you proud. I guess policy makers just have to find a healthy balance: not too many immigrants that take away services from citizens and strain resources.</p>

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<p>I also forgot to add that it is nice to be on the receiving end of the brain drain from other countries. I mean a lot of these people are what is keeping us on top. With the combination of poor domestic education (k-12), and low graduation rates, companies need to get this extra talent. And I am glad we receive it.</p>

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<p>Interesting insight bigshow. @ op- check out some of the other community colleges in the area. I’m from the south bay and there are a lot of ccc’s in the area. I’d personally recommend west valley college over de anza, although I’m not sure how hard the admissions process is. anyway, good luck!</p>

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<p>How do International students siphon American tax payer’s money? International students pay out-of-state tuition and do not get federal or state financial aid, which means that they have to pay everything from the apartment to insurance.
And many international students have to leave the US after they are done with school because their visa expired unless they find an employer who is willing to sponsor a work visa.</p>

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<p>I think foreign students are a good thing. I have way more in common with an intelligent, motivated immigrant than a lazy white trash American with an 85 IQ.</p>

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<p>this thread is hella funnyy hahhaha</p>

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<p>Looks like some people are getting offended…</p>

<p>“How do International students siphon American tax payer’s money? International students pay out-of-state tuition and do not get federal or state financial aid, which means that they have to pay everything from the apartment to insurance.
And many international students have to leave the US after they are done with school because their visa expired unless they find an employer who is willing to sponsor a work visa.”</p>

<p>We are not exclusively talking about “international students.” </p>

<h2>Well, I am sure it depends on a number of factors, but I have seen some people come here for 1-2 years and then pretty much get unemployment money to be able to get a near free education. This is not fair to many middle and lower “class” citizens.</h2>

<p>"I think foreign students are a good thing. I have way more in common with an intelligent, motivated immigrant than a lazy white trash American with an 85 IQ. "</p>

<p>I respect these students, and I enjoy their company. A lot of them, as a group, are very motivated and intelligent, which CollegeHopeful18 noted. I find it hilarious, however, that he focuses on one “racial” group, the whites, and characterizes them with the motivated immigrant-biased anyone? Maybe he should have wrote, " I think foreign students are a good thing. I have way more in common with an intelligent, motivated immigrant than a lazy white, asian, mexican, indian, etc. trash American with an 85 IQ." Unless you live in some hick-town I do not share the same experience as you. And regarless if you are white, asian, or mexican, etc. it makes you look like a fool. It has to do more with culture than “race.” I am white and I am far more motivated than most of these so-called immigrants. I bet if you went to their home country a lot of them are lazier than Americans; and this is based on my knowledge of production output. My basic belief is our tax dollars should be more focused on citizens than foreigners, which seems to be the general consensus. </p>

<p>And like I wrote, I welcome foreigners. </p>

<p>Also, can we please redirect this discussion? We should really help this guy out. Sorry for going off topic :)</p>

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<p>To make it clear, I am a domestic student. So no ad hominems please.</p>

<p>Dude, one is not eligible for welfare unless you are a citizen, permanent resident or on asylum. Illegal immigrants get no benefits except of AB540 but even then you would have attended a California high school for three years, and ,frankly, everybody deserves at least a secondary education. And that’s not federal but state law. So they would not get any federal financial aid a la stafford or pell.</p>

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<p>I’m F-1 student, and I am motivated. My best friends are White, Mexican, and Asian people. What is the point of insulting other cultures, disregarding your races? Personally, I think we should learn the differences and apply the good side of it.</p>

<p>@Cupertinotransfr Do you really think that “not helping other” would get you into the colleges you wish to get in?</p>

<p>@CalBearGuy XD</p>

<p>@thebigsh0w WoW!! I’m enlighten :wink: Like your argument</p>

<p>@nero103 you are so TRUE.</p>

<p>@CollegeHopeful18 Dude, you hate when people say bad thing about you, but why r ya doing the same thing to others?</p>

<p>Okay, Guys lets help @ahmed123. I see what you re saying. It’s better to have all your major causes done before you transfer, but consider that changing college means changing your I-20, which might complicate your Visa progression when you apply for it. if I were you, I would do a research on the colleges that have TAP with Cal, if there is any. And, then apply to that colleges, which they will issue my new I-20, then I would start my Visa application.</p>

<p>Welcome to USA ;)</p>

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<p>Internationals pay tax too. Blame out of state students! J/k</p>

<p>@ahmed123
do not go. If you cannot take all the prerequisite classes, try considering another CC or another major. </p>

<p>you are competing with the best students who have completed the prerequisites and are residents. You are in a disadvantage being an international student, and in a significant disadvantage because of the prerequisite classes. </p>

<p>well, you never know though. Follow your heart lol</p>

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<p>ya bigshow u r way wrong… international students dont get any kinda aid at all… not even at the community college level.</p>