From the Mouth of an SAT tutor

<p>Guys!!!!
I can't believe what i'm reading!! I can spot the shills a mile away posing as students on this board, pushing books on you!!! Ha!</p>

<p>Yes, of course, you need to study and, for that, you need material; but the stuff that is being suggested on these threads is not useful. They are glorified, truncated pseudo-dictionaries devoid any strategy on how to learn words other than flash cards. How lame! When has that ever worked? And memorizing lists??? Please!! Nobody can possibly remember the thousands of SAT words by staring at lists all day. Memory does not work like that.</p>

<p>It's all about association and usage. You need to form associations between the word you want to learn and a word you already know (a MNEMONIC DEVICE - look it up, not in a PR book - use a dictionary). Build your own vocab by reverse engineering the actual SAT tests. There is enough test material in the market for you to get a hefty sample to analyze, strip down and classify. If you don't do the leg work you will never OWN a word; that is, remember it for ever. By the time you take the SAT you will be thinking "I saw that word yesterday but I don't remember what it means!" And guess what! Most of the problems lie with words of average difficulty used in an unusual way - at least for you. For instance you all think "discriminating" is bad, right? Not on the SAT! It is always a positive word which means "refined".</p>

<p>Start with words. The rest will follow.</p>

<p>You sound way too energetic.</p>

<p>There are plenty of 2300+ scorers who have painlessly studied for the SAT using the books recommended on this forum. </p>

<p>And, no duh, mnemonic devices are useful.</p>

<p>Hah! Totally against this thread.</p>

<p>Learning DH both volumes has got me down to approx 2 wrong/test and I remember most of the words since I keep going through them.</p>

<p>BB and PR can together lead you to the zenith for sure.
Writing the above word reminds me of the story DH1 gave for zenith. Its surely the best way to improve vocab.</p>

<p>And discriminating is in DH part 2.
Clearly explained that it can be both positive and negative.</p>

<p>These books can give you everything.</p>

<p>2300+ students usually don’t have issues with vocab. For them, it is all about Reading Comp and mostly the double long comp.</p>

<p>Thanks for the compliment “you sound way too energetic” - I thrive on energy and use it all day to help my students.</p>

<p>If you seem to be stuck at a certain score even though you are taking practice test after practice test it is because you are not fixing what you are doing wrong.</p>

<p>Initial improvement from sheer perseverance can be dramatic and rewarding. But that will only get you so far. When you get to the point where you are getting the same amount wrong every time you take a test it is time to change the way you practice. Find out what you are doing wrong and fix it before doing any more tests.</p>

<p>Tip 1: If your problem area is the double long comp comparison questions, use your answers to the primary purpose questions (by way of reference) that address the main idea and tone of each passage.</p>

<p>Tip 2: If your problem area is sentence completion, use the prefixes in the answer choices to determine the word tone when see a word you don’t know. Ex: euphonic (eu=good)</p>

<p>Try telling what you’ve written to any parent in Asia and they’ll laugh at you. No offense intended and what you’ve written has its merits, but if you’re a SAT tutor, you should know that what works in real life isn’t always what sells on the market. If you tell a parent that retention and memorization of words is all about usage and association, they’ll tell you: “Well, ****, that’s common sense. I could have told you that.” Instead, you gotta give the kids a word list of 3,000 to 5,000 words, make them memorize 200-300 a day, and drill them with vocabulary tests and re-tests. Only then will a parent say that the teacher is doing his or her job properly. I mean, don’t get me wrong. I too employ the use of mnemonic devices and visualization cues, but at the end of the day, the more is always the merrier.</p>

<p>I am an SAT author, teacher, and tutor. I think there is merit in the vocabulary books mentioned on this website. Why study 3500 words when you can study the 500 or 600 most commonly occurring works? And I analyze the vocabulary words on every test to see how many “hits” the big names have.</p>

<p>It is odd to me, though, how many people on this website do not research other vocab lists, especially the free ones. I analyze those lists, too, and some free ones have just as many hits as the books you pay for. I also am puzzled by the number of students who insist only words in correct answers are hits. As far as I’m concerned, learning the words in wrong answers helps you eliminate them, so they are just as valuable and every bit as much a “hit.”</p>

<p>95% of my students are Asians. Most of them are getting 2100 before they even start sessions with me. And yes, their parents are super anxious about their kids getting a 2400. Their vocab is good enough to ace the sentence completion, where it fails is in the reading comp. Today, my entire class of 9 budding top scorers was stumped by 2 words: understatement & contentious. These are not even difficult words, so how is the list studying working out for them? I say not so good.</p>

<p>PSVicki</p>

<p>I am glad to see other tutors are out there “analyzing” the tests against the “big names”. You make a valid argument about studying 500 words as opposed to 3500. It is more efficient, granted.The problem is, in my experience, even if a student were to memorize 500 words prior to walking into the SAT (which i highly doubt) it will be of no use to him/her if the only thing attached to the word in his/her mind is a synonym. 1500-1700 level students have no idea how to contextually fit/recognize these words. I hear so many complaints from students who say they have studied, month after month, every list on every book their parents bought for them from Barnes and Noble (and you are right in pointing out that they are all redundant) but cannot seem to recall definitions and are still getting many mistakes on the test. My purpose in starting this thread is not to point out all the faults in the way students are studying; rather, it was a knee-jerk corrective to the overly sanctified status enjoyed by “big names” achieved on this board. Why should i care? Because I too have analyzed the “big names” and have found them to contain misleading content. The questions and answer choices on the reading comps bear no resemblance (other than in format) to the real SAT. They are not constructed around nuanced clues in the passage. They read more like basic reading skills questions and they up the difficulty level by just picking harder passages to understand. “big names” are totally worthless in my opinion. They actually do more harm than good. I see it happening with my students who venture out in the “big names” world just to satisfy that hunger for practice and it fouls up their whole SAT technique that i spent weeks working on. Might there exist authors, independent test writers, who do mimic the essence of SAT questions? Of course! And you might be one. That is what should be talked about on these boards. I hope we get more insight from other tutors, authors and professionals (not salesmen) in this field who know how to help students.</p>

<p>It looks to me like there are more tutors on these boards than students. Why don’t you folks pitch in and write criticism of the essays once in a while?</p>

<p>I got a 2350. My issue was with sentence comps. I studied 2 lists of Vocab words (Princeton Review flashcards, and Capital Educators review flashcards). After memorizing them, I never missed a sentence comp. When I walked in on the test, 95% of the words on it were directly from the lists. I figured out the other 5% through process of elimination and good test taking strategies. 800 on CR. You, sir, do not know what you’re talking about when you say that memorizing a list of words is not good. </p>

<p>Practicing passages + memorizing words = 800.</p>

<p>I didn’t have to hire a tutor to tell me that.</p>

<p>I think his point was about the size and quality of the lists. Trying to memorize something like the Barrons 3500 list, which is full of terms you’ll never see on the SAT, does indeed seem like a misuse of time.</p>

<p>Thank you Wood 5440. I will be more than happy to…I did not know that was a possibility but will look for them.</p>

<p>Students,
Go to thread “MY REAL ESSAYS 12, 11, 10, and 9” by donnykim. I posted a mini critique on introductions for you guys. You will be writing killer intros of your own in no time…</p>

<p>JBL</p>

<p>natanand,</p>

<p>Indeed, you got my point! I am all for studying. I am just trying to help students get more efficient use of their time. I happen to have years of experience in this field and thought you guys could benefit from a little insight. </p>

<p>To all you 2350 and 2400 scorers who disparage my advice, remember that for every 1 of you there are 100,000 average students who are really struggling with the vocab. You may have had the benefit of a top notch education and been wise enough to actually do the assigned readings when you were in grades 7 thru 11 (which, unbeknownst to you, is the true source of your strong vocab); but most students have not. They are trying to catch up, desperately. They are coming to these boards for real help and all they are being told to do is buy Kaplan, Princeton Review, Barrons. I am here to report that the approach used in these books DOES NOT WORK for MOST kids. There is no intelligent strategy proposed for studying words in them. </p>

<p>I am sure there are lesser know publications (or websites, software) that actually help with well thought out drills for vocab. Does anyone know of any? Tutors, please share.</p>

<p>Okay. I’ll provide a little insight from my own personal experiences. Now, I used to run a class called “Visual Vocab,” a class in which parents are told that their kids can memorize 100 words in an hour with my “innovative” technique and easily memorize3,000 words in 1 month at a 100% retention rate. It was a stellar success in terms of attracting many students desperate to many memorize words, but the results did not always fulfill the expectations of parents or students.</p>

<p>In a nutshell, I grabbed a word list from Barron’s or Word Smart, compiled about 3,500 words, made my own list, and employed the use of mnenomics/visual cues in creating linking words that would perhaps help the students better visualize and remember the words. </p>

<p>To give you an example, let’s say the word was “docile” and the definition given is: “meek, submissive, obedient.” I would give the kids the linking word “dog”, which rhymes with “docile” and tell them to visualize a docile dog obediently listening to his master’s commands. There are many words in which associations like these come easily, but are also many in which it is very difficult to find a suitable linking or rhyming word. </p>

<p>Some students responded with great enthusiasm, especially the more Americanized students who could understand the linking words (I used “curb” as a linking word once and I was shocked to discover that over half of the class didn’t know what curb meant. The same went for the word “ramp”), whereas other students initially responded with great fervor but could not, even though they remembered the linking or rhyming word, associate the word properly with the definition and more importantly, its correct usage when they saw the word on the Sentence Completion section. </p>

<p>I remember once teaching the word “soporific” once as something that bores or puts you to sleep. I used the linking word “soap opera” (once again, everyone immediately knew what a drama was not but many did not know what a soap opera was), and told them to picture watching a boring soap opera that was “soporific.”</p>

<p>Now, I came across the word “soporific” in one of the sentence completion practice exercises, but it was used as a noun to indicate a type of sleep-inducing drug. I cannot remember the exact usage of the word, but “soporific” was the correct answer, but many students did not choose it because many students could not correlate the use of soporific with a drug. </p>

<p>The reason I give such detailed explanations and examples is to show that your points do indeed have many merits. As for me personally, I believe that my own method worked remarkably well for me because shoot, obviously, I created it with my own linking words and more importantly, because I know most of the words anyway to some extent and merely had to freshen my memory. So, while it amazed many students that they could choose any word out of the list of 3,000 words, and I could immediately reply with the correct linking word and definition, I knew, in reality, that my 100% retention guarantee was just a gimmick. </p>

<p>The reality is that the only real way to succeed on the SAT is to study your *** off, whatever methology you employ. For some, memorizing a word list of 3,000 words is extremely helpful; for others, they need merely scour 500 words from Direct Hits and can immediately see an improvement in their scores. </p>

<p>But as a teacher or tutor, you must also understand that the majority of students are not diligent, they do not want to scour the Internet to find their own resources, and find what best works for them. They merely want to be spoon-fed or at the least, deceive themselves into believing that they can somehow produce a magical score in a month with some hoax strategy. </p>

<p>I mean, you ask students these days what the word “dictionary” means, and they will look at you with an expression of “duh…***?”…but then, you ask them what a “thesaurus” is, and you’d be surprised at how many kinds have a blank expression, with some kids even thinking the word means some kind of dinosaur. </p>

<p>As a salesman, we market what sells. It’s that simple, but you don’t have to be a genius to understand that nothing in this world can replace diligence, determination, and a genuine desire to learn. </p>

<p>I mean, a lot of people who know me personally think of me as a glib talker whose goals in teaching are based purely for monetary profit. While this is undoubtedly true to an extent, I do remember a time when education actually meant something, when you could go to the local library and the old lady working as a librarian could actually provide you with some deep insights on a book you checked out, and a time when reading was actually enjoyable. </p>

<p>Now, I genuinely hate reading books, but alas, what adult in any profession truly enjoys what he or she is doing? </p>

<p>BTW: Your comments on the post concerning my essays are appreciated. Man, I know for sure I used to enjoy, if not love, writing, but teaching the same introductory templates, examples, and conclusions and looking at over 20 essays written in the exact same way that I myself taught to students, sometimes, I wonder what the hell I am doing.</p>

<p>Donnykim,</p>

<p>Great post, thanks!!! And your candor will be appreciated by all, I am sure of it. </p>

<p>You are not glib, at least not here.</p>

<p>First of all let me make it plain: I am not against making a profit or benefiting financially from helping students, au contraire, i believe in capitalism as the truest engine for the efficient transfer of information. I just insist that what IS being sold actually has merit. </p>

<p>If you found a way to “digest” those lists for your students, and if in the end they got what they wanted which was a higher score on the CR, then I applaud you - and you should be handsomely rewarded for the value you bring.</p>

<p>I agree with you that when you give the student the mnemonic “link” it never sticks because it comes from YOUR cultural/life experiences, not his/hers. They have to create their own mnemonic “link” for it to work. Hence my beef with publications that promise what they cannot deliver.</p>

<p>By way of another example (that got blank stares from my international students), “flippant”: when you “flip someone off” you are being “disrespectful”. In their culture they have a different way of showing disrespect that does not involve the middle finger!</p>

<p>About teaching writing, you may quote me on this:</p>

<p>“nothing kills the love of writing more than teaching writing for a living”</p>

<p>That’s why I leave it to others and will only occasionally give a valuable FREE tip here and there. (students, don’t expect volumes of essay critiques from me, i am hoping to attract more tutors on this board to help you out with that) - be patient they will come. We teachers like helping, it’s in our nature (don’t worry, donnykim knows exactly what he is doing and enjoys teaching or he would not be wasting his time posting on these boards!!)</p>

<p>JBL</p>

<p>I see many 5 paragraph essays on this board. NO GOOD. It is not working. The problem is that you are not giving enough attention to the opening and closing paragraphs. You do not have enough time in 25 minutes to develop your voice with a great introduction, talk about three examples and then close with a great conclusion. The grader gives you your base score on the strength of your opening.</p>

<p>Paragraphs. And concise language. These things will help your argument.</p>

<p>I’m also a tutor, and like with most things SAT, I’ve found that the best approach <em>depends</em>. Memorizing lists is a waste of time when you only have time to cram in 250 or so words. But if you’re like most of my students, taking the time to learn 500+ “hit” SAT words and mastering them makes a notable difference in the reading score. If you’re finding that studying a very large quantity of words has a negligible effect on a student’s score, the problem may be that they’re not reviewing enough.</p>

<p>That said, I agree with your assessment that memorizing synonyms is useless. Students should seek out lists with well developed definitions. I never ask students to memorize definitions word for word, but they do need to achieve mastery over how to use the words.</p>

<p>I feel we are really getting somewhere. Thank you blueandgold.</p>

<p>" I agree with your assessment that memorizing synonyms is useless. " </p>

<p>Indeed. This is actually how the SAT tricks them. Take “consummate” as an example: you could be a consummate (utter) liar, or a consummate (skilled) technician. So the real way to OWN this word is to dig into its root meaning: Con (with) SUMM (entire, as in “summary”) - Now we have the best overall definition that works in any tone setting.</p>

<p>…and this is how you students will accomplish the most important fact as elucidated by blueandgold: “they do need to achieve mastery over how to use the words.”</p>