<p>Hey guys!</p>
<p>Im going through the pre-med route and was wondering if anyone has any tips or advice for Gen Bio, Gen Chem next year.</p>
<p>Also to add to that what calc do pre-med students need to take. Calc 151 or 135. Cause I signed up for 151 but does 135 also have 136. Since as pre-med u need a year of calc???cause 151 is harder and faster but meant for physics major and I’m a bio major but I thought 151 had a 152 so that would be calc 2 and that is a full year. If that makes sense</p>
<p>pre med at rutgers is tough. Biology is probably the “easier” science because all you need to do is memorize everything in the book…tedious but not hard…to be honest bio lab makes the whole bio 101/102 courses harder then they should be. Chem is hard, teachers arent great and tests are not easy but not impossible. Physics IMO is the easiest but thats for me…teachers are ok…some good some not great… Both physics lab and chem lab are ok…no where near as as annoying as bio lab. Orgo…well orgo is orgo…if you can do well in that…you will do well in any other class probably in your whole life lol. Calc is a requirement for science majors, so is calc 2 or a stat class.Basically 2 math courses…pre calc only counts as a math requirement course for non science major i believe. Take Bio and Chem your freshman year…most people do that…then take orgo sophmore…you can take physics junior year or take while your taking orgo…it should be able to handle it…physics really isnt that bad. Pre med or pre dent takes alot of time…there will be days where you will be sitting for hours in the library or in your dorm studying…social life can take somewhat of a toll…but you can still go out…just make sure you have great time management skills…thats what its all about in college…time management. You dont have to be a science major to go to med school…all you need is the pre med classes (bio chem physics orgo) but many people go to become biological science majors…such as myself. GL and hope you enjoy rutgers.</p>
<p>First of all, do not listen to the person above me. This advice is both unspecific and unhelpful.</p>
<p>General Bio- This is suppose to be a semiweed out course. Go to every lecture and take a recorder with you if you really need it. Sit in the front row. No one will care, but if you get an A. It counts as 4.0 on the AAMCS over 4 credits.</p>
<p>General Chem- Seems hard when you take it, but its a joke compare to Organic Chemistry. If you got anything below a B in General Chemistry and didn’t study much, you will most likely fail Organic Chemistry. This is not a joke. </p>
<p>Take Organic Chemistry in the summer only if you got a B or better in General Chemistry. Warning, it is harder in the Fall, but you have the summer to look over your classes. Unless you are a genius, do not take Upper level Science electives in the first semester your FRESHMAN YEAR. It is both stupid and useless. </p>
<p>If you can choose professors which you can’t, you should go to Professor Kimmel’s lecture instead of Professor Siegel. Everyone have the same exam, but Kimmel is the better lecture. This does not MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD NOT DO THE BOOK HW AND REVIEW THE EXAM BEFORE THE DAY OF THE ACTUAL EXAM. </p>
<p>BIOLOGY MAJOR IS VERY EASY. FOR YOUR FIRST YEAR. DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN 15 CREDITS. ADJUST YOURSELF TO THEIR LEVELS. IT IS BETTER TAKING 12 CREDITS AND GETTING A 4.0 RATHER THAN 18 CREDITS AND GETTING A 3.0. </p>
<p>REMEMBER, PREMED IS A HARD TRACK. EVERY LEVEL IS A FILTERING PROCESS</p>
<p>GEN CHEM/GEN BIO-ORGO/GENETICS-BIOCHEM/CELL&NEURO ELECTIVES.</p>
<p>START EASY-GET GOOD GRADES</p>
<p>IF YOU FOLLOW THIS ON A DEEP LEVEL, YOU ARE ALREADY IN A BETTER POSITION THAN 80% OF ALL FRESHMAN. DISCOUNTING HONORS AND GOOD PHARMACY KIDS.</p>
<p>Sound advice. Taking pre-med glasses off schedule or during the summer is also a great idea. Ex. Chemistry 161 in the Spring and 162 in the fall. You’ll only be a semester behind, and your GPA will be a ton better. </p>
<p>GPA is all about gaming the system.</p>
<p>time master’s advice is generally sound except he seems to be waaay overhyping the difficulty of orgo. it was bad, but not THAT bad, and an A is definitely doable with regular study. granted, he seems to have taken it this past year meaning he got all 3 professors rather than the style i had, which was one professor per section. </p>
<p>imo - premed at rutgers is a joke, it really is easy, the only class that might push you a bit is orgo. the key is, as time master said, to start strong and not trip up early before you realize years down the line how easy it actually was if you just put a bit of effort in.</p>
<p>and take the lower level calc one (135 i guess). i can’t comment on calc 1 but calc 2 was probably the hardest course i have ever taken (i took the math/phys aka 152 or whatever. avoid it at all costs. ive heard the 136 one is much, much easier).</p>
<p>Trust me, the reason they changed it was because the oconnor section was doing disaportionally better than everyone else. We were the test subjects and it was not fun. Boikess and Roth, high on their tenures, pretty much said f-u to half the class with their inability to explain anything. I was more confused after going to Roth’s office hours than I was going in. I honestly don’t see how it was possible, but it was like that… Roth and his shark jokes… (trying to interpret a backside attack in an Sn2 reaction= so corny). </p>
<p>Organic Chemistry is definitely doable with an A, but it is nothing like an A in Chem I.</p>
<p>Consider yourself the lucky students who knows this.</p>
<p>After I had Roth, I thought Siegel was an amazing professor.</p>
<p>does anyone know if med schools accept ap chem scores?</p>
<p>There is in fact a problem with the summer course idea. It costs money, and i don’t mean hundred dollars money, I mean thousands. If your parents or if you (I doubt you yourself could afford it as a student) could afford it thats great. But for the rest of the world, we have to do it the traditional way.</p>
<p>I was thinking about doing the Physician Assistant program at Rutgers and signed up for my classes. A lot of people advised me not to take bio and chem together especially as a freshman, so I just signed up for bio. Should I not have done that…?</p>
<p>Are they full year courses? Can I take bio for fall and chem in spring, or no? (I’m so sorry, I am so outta the loop)</p>
<p>@quitepossibly, how do you do the PA program at Rutgers? I was thinking about doing it too and looked into it, but just curious.</p>
<p>Chem’s not bad, read the book and do the practice exams and you should be fine. Imo, lecture was kind of useless, I thought the book was fine. For the poster below you, just take 151/152. They’re all around better courses and they’ll help you in your physics classes and on your mcats in a couple of years. If you can’t get yourself through them you’re probably gonna wash out of pre-med anyway, just do it</p>