General housing questions

Apologies if these exact questions have been asked, I didn’t see them though.

I think I want to live in BJ. Well, really, Snitchcock, but BJ is more realistic at this point.

Do I even have a chance at BJ at this point? Can someone at BJ comment on the social life with the single dorms? I like the idea of having a friend right away, but I also like privacy a bit.

If I commit tonight and pay the deposit, and rank Snitchcock 1 and BJ 2, what would happen? Assuming Snitchcock doesn’t work out, would I have priority for BJ over people who submit after me but have BJ as 1?

Also, if I find out in a few weeks that an Ivy League is offering me far more money and all reason tells me (and my parents will tell me too) to choose the Ivy, I can just de-commit and lose the 500 dollars right?

Thanks!

tutu…ru - Yes to the $500

If you commit today (or before ivy day at least) you have a decent chance at BJ I believe, but Snitchcock is probably full. If you want a single, BJ is better as Snitchcock doesn’t have many singles for 1st years, and BJ is mostly singles.

My S1 is a 4th year in BJ, loves his single but leaves his door open when he wants to socialize and goes to the house lounge to meet up with others as well. . Since most rooms are singles, the house system works really well to socialize everyone with activities and meetings.Works great for him.

You have priority with all your choices over anyone committing after you,so whoever commits now has a better chance to get into on of their choices. And yes, you could cancel your commitment but will lose the $500.

Congrats on your acceptance, and welcome to UChicago!

Thank you so much! Hopefully my parents see it the same way I do.

BJ is like half people who got in early and half people who were deferred. You’ll be fine.

@Marylandfour I think I know your son holy shit…

@HydeSnark, lol, lots of houses in BJ, but maybe you do! I try not to post personal info about him, but still want to be helpful to the incoming students. :slight_smile:

@Marylandfour There’s not a whole lot of 4th years in BJ and afaik only one from Maryland. I didn’t look through your past posts for personal information or anything. This is surreal

@MurphyBrown Still working on the cure.

Thanks for the info!

So, my dad just said we can’t risk throwing away $500. Okay.

Do I have a chance at BJ if I send my deposit in like, right after Ivy decisions? Like, minutes after.

It’s unlikely you’ll get a lot more money from an Ivy than from UChicago. UChicago gives merit aid, but the Ivies don’t. Perhaps the uncle of @MurphyBrown 's friend got merit aid, but a lot has changed in 40 years - the Ivy Agreement now stipulates that merit aid (as well as athletic scholarships) are verboten.

In short, the only way an Ivy will give you a lot more money than UChicago is if the need-based packages are very different. That does happen, but more often the gap is a few thousand dollars.

Right, that’s what I thought. A few thousand dollars is no joke, though.

Certainly. When COAs of $65,000 and $70,000 are commonplace at Chicago and peer schools, though, the significance of a few thousand dollars is considerably reduced - especially as financial awards can change from one year to another, so that difference isn’t necessarily multiplied over four years.

I guess I’ll have to wait and see. I almost hope I don’t get in anywhere else, though. Have you committed? Which residence hall did you choose?

I committed shortly before before RD decisions were released, after a few sources of aid (NMF especially) were confirmed and an unexpected one entered the picture. I listed BJ, South, and North, in that order.

Nice! Do you know if committing basically commits us to the financial aid package? Because my parents are moving an hour away closer to my dad’s new job, and my mom will lose hers, so we will be losing a fair amount of income. But that won’t happen until like May, after commitment time.

Committing means you lose the $500 deposit if you go elsewhere. Some schools are much more lenient than others about returning the money if you ask (nicely), but I don’t know what UChicago’s stance is. If you end up getting into another school, with a better aid package, then you can go elsewhere.

Committing now shouldn’t affect need-based aid, which is divorced from admissions (and therefore the day-to-day business of maximizing yield). The only way the aid office will know to be extremely concerned you’ll go elsewhere is if you tell them. For instance, letting them know about a very different aid offer from a peer institution.*

*There is a right way to do this, and a wrong way. To keep this short, I won’t delve into the details, but it’s not a move to make before asking around here on CC. Even some GCs know surprisingly little on the matter.

If you’re expecting a change in family circumstances, you can let the aid office know right away, detailing the impact on your finances, and politely ask them to reconsider their offer. Do not say that money is all that’s keeping you from attending - the aid office has formulas to determine need, and if the University believes it’s your first choice, they’ll offer a package they “know” you can just barely afford. Unless you have a vastly superior offer from a peer school (see above), they assume most students would walk over a bed of hot coals to attend, and will take the borderline affordable aid package. However, if a student’s financial circumstances change a lot - one parent losing her job certainly counts - the U of C has no incentive to make someone’s net price unaffordable and bring the University’s yield down.

The one type of aid that will be affected if you enroll is merit aid. UChicago (and other schools with merit money) use it to boost yield, making offers to applicants who might otherwise go elsewhere. I waited until March to commit, despite getting in EA, on the chance I’d get some merit money, which is exactly what happened (Cambridge for $13K/year wasn’t a bad backup option either). I assume I set off a red flag in their system, or in my regional counselor’s head, and the U of C offered significant merit dollars. You’ll notice this trend if you pay attention - a lot of University Scholars are people who waited a while to commit, or URM applicants with a strong profile (likely to have some very good options after Ivy Day). Everything I’ve seen during the RD round confirms this: merit aid has become yield-maximizing aid, and by committing you lose a lot of leverage - it signals UChicago is your clear first choice.

Given the above, only you know what’s best for your own situation, but hopefully this wall of text is some use to you and your family.

NotVerySmart makes a lot of good points, in my opinion (especially for someone who says he’s not very smart). One downside is that if you wait to make your deposit you’re likelihood of getting your preferred dorm goes down.

It would be interesting to see the data over the years on when commits are made which would help you to have your cake and eat it too as you “negotiate” with FA and Admissions. I would think that a bunch commit right after EA decisions, a bunch right after RD decisions, a bunch right after Ivy day, then then next biggest bunch within a week or two of the final date.

Which is exactly why colleges won’t release that data. I would imagine that helping out at the admissions office would be a tremendous learning experience - it’s something I’m more than a little interested in.

Oh, so I committed and paid my deposit on Monday! Just to be clear, if I have Snitchcock 1 and BJ 2, I will have priority for BJ over someone who has BJ as 1, as long as my deposit was before theirs?

Also, am I supposed to withdraw all my other apps now?

@tutututututuru, congrats on the commitment! And yes, you will have priority for BJ, or your 3rd choice, over anyone who deposits after you and requests those for their first choice.

As far as apps go, I believe that you should decline admissions to schools that you may have already been accepted. If there are other schools that you are awaiting decisions, wait until an admittance is offered, and then decline. At least I think that is the proper way.