Geometry for 9th Grade

I want my son to take Geometry over this summer but i have no idea where or how. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP

I would start by talking to a guidance counselor at your son’s HS.

Note that it is often difficult for students to take a year long class in a condensed summer session, and there won’t be any benefit from a college standpoint to take math over the summer. A student starting in Geometry in 9th grade should still be able to reach Calculus by senior year. There is no need to go beyond that in HS.

What does your son want?

My daughter did geometry over a summer, it was at the summer school organized by her high school district so it was free and automatically on her transcript. The school had advised us to confirm with them if she took it anywhere else as they would have to check if it was accredited to use it for placement the following year, and it would have been on a separate transcript. In that light, agree you should confirm with the school counselor before enrolling your son elsewhere in case it’s not actually accepted by his school.

As others have implied, doing geometry over a summer is not much fun for the student. We had our reasons for the acceleration and it worked for my daughter but I can see why it wouldn’t work for everyone.

Absolutely work with your school. If it’s not run by the school, and you haven’t pre-arranged credit and/or placement, which likely means it needs to be from an accredited organization with specific grading criteria, it could be for naught.

Having said that, Johns Hopkins CTY and Art of Problem Solving have accredited math courses. It may be a bit late to start looking - Iirc, AOPS is 22-24 weeks.

What is your goal? More importantly what is your son’s goal? One thing to consider is some students are great in algebra but struggle with geometry and vice versa. Anything you want high school credit needs normally needs to be approved ahead of time. Schools do not have to give credit for anything done outside of school and some don’t.

Some high schools do offer a summer math program for advancement. Ours does. It is 5 or 6 weeks about 6 hours a day (I think it was just some Fridays) - then there was still several hours of homework a day after school no matter how easy the work is. Ours has policies such as no absences for any reason, all homework has to be completed on time and graded to average x amount, tests all have to have a minimum grade of x, midterm and final have to score at least x which I think is in the 90s to get credit - the class may be taken for credit to start but may end up being enrichment only. We had different classes for cp and honors levels.

Why would you want to subject him to this?

@momtogirls2 - I had forgotten, ours had a no absence policy too. This is the issue with a summer school for advancement, it is so condensed that students literally can not afford to miss a day, and they don’t have the luxury of time to absorb concepts. It was incredibly intense.

Why? He could take Geometry in the 9th grade if he is advanced and took Algebra1 in middle school. Then
algebra2 in the 10th grade, precalculus in the 11th grade, and Calculus in the 12th, which is the advanced track.

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Although it’s too late for this OP and this summer, John Hopkins CTY has a summer program called “Math Sequence” where they cram a year-long HS math course into three weeks: https://cty.jhu.edu/summer/enrolled/mathsequence.html

Here is what the students say: https://www.realcty.org/wiki/Individually_Paced_Mathematics_Sequence

Speak to your son’s guidance counselor to determine whether or not she thinks it’s a good idea.

I hate the idea of condensing 10 months of material into 8 weeks.

^Especially math or science.

I’m not understanding why you’d want to do this either. It’s my understanding that Geometry in 9th is ahead as it is. That’s what my son tested into and he will be taking AP Calc this fall as a senior.

OP, talk to your son’s high school to see which summer geometry programs his high school will accept for credit so your son can go to algebra 2 at 9th grade. Some summer geometry classes offered at nearby schools could be accepted for placement in algebra 2.

Or your son can take a placement test to skip geometry. Just helped a girl to do so, now she does not have to take geometry and straightly go to algebra 2 at 9th grade.

Skipping Geometry is a horrible idea. Starting in Algebra2 in the 9th grade brings ZERO benefits and is fraught with potential pitfalls. I’m not sure what there is to gain, unless the child is pushing on his/her own.

I never took geometry, at any level, although it seems like a good idea if students can learn the rigors of proofs and their connection to logical thinking and reasoning. Those things seem to be losing favor these days, lol. Skip anything you can, it’s all about getting a piece of paper.

I absolutely disagree

Education is not about pieces of paper. It’s about exposure to knowledge, about internalizing it and making it your own. It’s not a race to get credit for as many classes as possible, it’s about learning material.

My S took Geometry in 9th grade, but only because he had taken Alg 1 in middle school. He took precalc in 11th grade and BC calc in 12th. Even if your S is a STEM kid why push him? But, I would rather see geo condensed over the summer than Alg 1 or 2.

I would be more comfortable with people sharing their humblebrags about how they (or their kids) got out of geometry if the kid were asking the question and we could probe more about his reasonings and abilities. But it is the parent asking the question (and has yet to return to answer the questions posed).

Can it be done? For the right person, maybe. Although if this was truly assessed by teachers (as opposed to a parent trying to push the kid) as an identified need in the child’s development, one would hope it would have been done before mid-June. Regardless, for the other 99.999% of 8th graders, probably not successfully. The other thing to keep in mind is that geometry will be an important part of standardized testing for college admissions, so there are considerations other than simply accelerating the math curriculum.

^ True, but sometimes both the kid and parents don’t know and the teachers don’t care. It is good for the parents to raise the question.

I will not go full scale against geometry, but I think to take one year to learn it is waste of time.