Georgetown vs uPenn vs northwestern vs cornell

<p>I like Georgetown, Upenn, cornell and northwestern. I am not sure in what order. I would do business major. Give any input. Thanks.</p>

<p>Apply to them all, and apply to several safeties. Put more time into finding other colleges you like, than spending your time deciding which of the above you would attend.</p>

<p>OP Here is the order I suggest if you want to study business</p>

<p>Penn
Cornell
Georgetown
Norhtwestern</p>

<p>If Investment banking is a goal switch Georgetown with Cornell on the list.</p>

<p>Also if you want to study business undergraduate drop Northwestern since they do not have an undegraduate business program (you would end up studying economics).</p>

<p>Here is my background that influences my rankings. I graduated from Georgetown with an undergradsuate business degree. I have a JD/MBA from Northwestern and I have lectured/taught at Kellogg (Northwestern’s graduate business school). My youngest son is a freshman at Penn/Wharton. In making his choice we considered all four of the schools.</p>

<p>Here are some further thoughts.</p>

<p>Penn/Wharton is considered by many to be the top business undegraduate program. I am highly impressed by their program, facilities, job placement results and student body.</p>

<p>Cornell/Dyson is a strong school withv a growing reputation. Two downsides to note are that it is in the ag school and the location may not suit all students (I mention the last point because it was a turnoff for my son)</p>

<p>Georgetown has a strong program that is best for student who pursue international business or Investment banking (for some reason they are highly represented in IB on Wallstreet - lately only Harvard and Penn have placed as many kids)</p>

<p>Northwestern is a great school located close to Chicago. Unfortunately is does not have an undergraduate business program.</p>

<p>If you are looking at top undergraduate business programs others to consider are UVA, Michigan (Ross), Notre Dame (if interested in Accounting), Illinois (also for accountning),Indiana (Kelly), CAL- Berkely and Clarmont McKenna.</p>

<p>^Northwestern does have an undergraduate program in business. It’s just not a degree-granting program. Instead, it’s a certificate program with GRADUATE-LEVEL courses. Even getting through the pre-reqs is quite a battle. If one wants to acquire advanced technical skills, this program actually blows the others out of the water.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/certificate.aspx[/url]”>http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/certificate.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The Northwestern program is composed of mostly math classes plus 2 economics classes as prerequisites and 4 business classes (in finance or management anaytics) for the certificate. It is a great school and Kellogg’s MBA program is highly rated but it is hard to see how this undergraduate certificate program blows any of the 3 undergraduate business schools out of the water. The Wharton program is basically a combination of the MBA curriculum and a liberal arts degree, plus with Penn’s “One University” policy, undergraduates can take graduate level classes.</p>

<p>I’d say Penn (Wharton) should be the clear number one. Then I’d go Cornell and Gtown. Ad noted above Northwestern really doesn’t have an undergraduate business school so you’d be better off somewhere like NYU, Notre Dame, UMichigan (especially if you get a preferred admit to the business school), UVa, UNC, UTX-Austin, Carnegie Mellon, Boston College or any one of the other great b-schools out there.</p>

<p>Penn (Wharton)
Cornell AEM = Georgetown
Northwestern</p>

<p>If you want to study “business” as a discipline, I think Northwestern will obviously have less to offer than the others. I am a Kellogg CPU alum, and the courses are more theoretical and less directly relevant to the workplace (i.e., investment banking) - course work is very quantitative and empirical (most of my teachers were top academics who more or less believes in efficient market hypothesis). If you want to spend your undergrad years understanding businesses, studying financial statements, learning business operations and building financial forecasts in Excel, the other three will have more to offer. However, assuming you want to go into Wall Street, Northwestern is just as well regarded as Cornell and Georgetown from my experience in investment banking. Wharton is in a class of its own, not surprisingly. Northwestern’s main strength is in consulting; for some reason there’s a strong bias for consulting at NU.</p>

<p>^Actually, even accounting majors take only one course in financial statement analysis. Most other business majors don’t take financial statement analysis and just want to stay away from anything accounting-related as much as they can. As for understanding business and business operation, I think people learn more about them on the job than anything. Certainly, compared to the highly technical courses from CPU, those business courses may seem more directly relevant; but the fact that many successful people in business or investment banking were engineers or liberal arts majors means their relevance is either rather limited or easily picked up on the job.</p>

<p>Apply to wharton</p>

<p>I’d caution against too narrow a view of what undergraduate “business” means. Have a look at the following overview of “Roads to Business” at Northwestern:
<a href=“http://www.bip.northwestern.edu/documents/RoadsToBusiness2012.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bip.northwestern.edu/documents/RoadsToBusiness2012.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>As a comprehensive research university, NU does blow Georgetown out of the water. NU has much stronger economics and math departments (among others). A program like NU’s Mathematical Methods in the Social Sciences, combined with an econ major, would provide a solid foundation for quantitative business analysis (probably stronger than anything Georgetown offers and competitive with anything Cornell or Wharton offers) … if that’s your thing.</p>

<p>At any rate, these are all very selective schools. To have a choice, you first have to get into at least two of them.</p>

<p>Might add some top LAC’s with strong investment banking alumni networks like Colgare and Holy Cross. HC has a Wall Street/finance alumni network which is very helpful for job placement.</p>

<p>You should apply to all of them instead of wondering what would have happened if you didn’t.</p>