I have a 36 in Wolf. Yep, it does take forever for the oven to pre-heat. At least 15 minutes to come up to 375. I’ve gotten used to just building in the time when I’m cooking.
I have a 30" wolf. It heats up pretty fast, faster than my aga which has a tiny oven but takes forever to preheat.
Sorry to learn that the blue porcelain Wolf interiors are still chipping. I never used the self cleaning cycle on the third range due to fear the porcelain on that one would also flake off.
I read a few years ago that some ovens have a signal that chimes when the oven has (supposedly) come to the set temp, but it actually is just set to chime after 10 - 15 minutes. It was recommended to use an oven thermometer to verify the temperature independently. It may be that some ovens don’t really preheat as quickly as we think. My former Wolf ovens (both the large side and the small side) took at least twice as long as an inexpensive 30" Frigidaire oven I had years before, or so I thought.
My concern is what oven thermometer, selling for $5 - $30, can you trust to be more accurate than the one built into the oven? Yet we’re told we need to calibrate the pricey oven without access to anything better. (Yes, I’m a little bitter on the subject since last week I was told to calibrate my new whole house dehumidifier by averaging the readings of three cheap hygrometers, just as GE told me to calibrate the ovens in our temporary home.)
My Miele oven lets me know it is ready as soon as it reaches the set temperature. I know from watching the action
Mine is true to temperature and doesn’t chime until it’s the temp you set.
I think Wolf is ok but not great. Also own 2 Sub Zero fridges (same company).
They have great customer service but Sub Zero/Wolf appliances are extremely expensive to repair. We had an issue with our Sub Zero and the repair cost was $1500.
I’ve got a Wolf stove (4 burners, a griddle, and a French burner)–it also has two ovens that take a very long time to get to temperature. However, the stove is about 20 years old and it’s only recently that I’ve had to call a repair person. I also have a SubZero fridge and freezer that are the same age. I had those repaired recently. I’m hoping that all of these last a little longer, not sure I could get similarly sized replacements. We spend half of the year at our vacation place and I recently bought a Miele induction stove for that house (no gas line there). I have to say that I was surprised at how much I like the Miele induction stove.
I know some might disagree, but consider getting a home warranty that covers not only appliances but also all your home infrastructure like plumbing and electricity. We pay an annual premium of around $700, and a service call is just $75/visit, which includes all labor and parts. It takes a bit of time to get things repaired, but we have saved tons of money in service/labor/parts over the years.
If they can’t fix it, they cash you out. It might not cover a new Sub-Zero, but it is a substantial amount of cash that you can use for your own repair or to get a new unit.
Just a thought. The old stove that came with our home when we bought it was expensive but old. It couldn’t be repaired. The warranty company cashed us out, and we bought a high-end GE unit (clearly not in the same class as Wolf etc.), but it was enough to pay for the new GE fully.
I am very likely in the minority, but I am a huge fan of home warranties.
It’s a good idea but we’re always leery of the fine print on those home warranties.
We have a lot of repairs every year but they usually require an immediate fix (ie plumbing). It’s a real hassle and our house isnt that old - from 2004.
Had to get a chimney cap and some flashing and that cost us $3k due to the height of our roof.
Was going to say Miele. I love my Miele and only got it because the Wolf I originally wanted wasn’t going to be available for at least 8 months. I didn’t want to wait so got the Miele and it’s awesome! It’s dual fuel and works so well.
Im sure your Miele is probably just as good as the Wolf. Not sure if any of these high end appliances are worth it.
The only real noticeable benefit we’ve ever noticed on our SubZero fridge is the ice cream is always the right texture.
Agreed, but remember that these warranty companies are regulated by the state insurance commissioners. I do read the fine print and am aware, generally speaking, of what is and isn’t covered. With my warranty company, many of the things that commonly break down, such as appliances and many plumbing/electrical problems, are indeed covered.
I have to say my home warranty company has always stood by us. It may not be the most time-efficient way of getting repairs, but it is completely cost-effective for us.
We, too, need things fixed ASAP. But, depending on the issues, we are usually able to come up with a work-around until they can get it fixed for a mere $75. I am moderately handy (emphasis on “moderately”) with small repairs around the house and can usually keep things going until warranty repair folks can get it fixed it permanently. Living in California, I’ve learned to be prepared for emergencies like earthquakes, so I have low-cost redundancies to handle emergencies (e.g., a propane BBQ if we have no natural gas, a generator if we have no electricity and basic tools to take care of common problems around the house). All of that comes in handy for everyday problems at the house.
For the years we’ve owned our home, we are actually ahead financially for the cost of the home warranty, plus we have peace of mind that some major issues are indeed covered. Since we first moved into our home, we’ve replaced nearly all of the major appliances except for one, and the warranty company has contributed to the purchase of two of our major appliances (stove and refrigerator).
It is worth considering for some, but not all, of us. Since you have a newish home, you might not need that peace of mind as much as me with an older home.
Just an FYI. We had a horrible experience with one of these warranty companies. Thank dogs our realtor gave it to us as a gift from his RE firm… waste of money otherwise. Talk about having no heat or hot water for a month around Christmas! The plumber they sent said he did not work with the boiler brand even though when we made the call we clearly stated the brand and model. $75 down the drain. The next plumber they sent had the same response… another $75. After wasting our time on these losers, I found a mechanic who fixed the thing. Oh and read the fine print… they don’t cover some brands and max replacement value is capped at $XYZ (ours was $2K).
Hail puppies…the world would be much better with dogs in charge!
As Sly once said, “different strokes for different folks.” Our experience had been totally different. If our warranty company can’t fix the problem (e.g., with appliances), they will refund the money and, if necessary, cash us out.
We’ve been with them for multiple years, and I’m just relaying our experience. If you read the reviews for warranty companies, they are universally awful. However, our own experience has been, for the most part, great.
To each their own!
We have a 36” duel fuel range, Jennaire not Wolf. The oven does take longer to heat than the 30” same-brand wall oven. We made the final decision based on price (local appliance dealer had a bulk order for that range to go into 20 new high end condos and added ours onto that order.)
We also like the high power burners for stir frying. But, all those btu s meant replacing our gas line with a bigger one. And the powerful burners only work with a wok or a very large pot. The diameter of the flame circle means most of the heat goes to the sides of the pan, not the bottom. If I had to do it again I’d look into ranges with star shaped burners.
Note on higher BTU burners that most towns will require upgrading the ventilation.
Thermador makes the star shaped burners which cooks seem to like. Monogram makes a burner with concentric rings depending on the size of the flame.
I need to stop researching on Houzz and other places because people have so many strong opinions and there is always someone who hates a particular brand!
I wanted a Thermador in our last house and an appliance repairman talked me out of it. The simmer burner works by constantly relighting and it burns out the mechanism.
But yes, Houzz is great but you can find people who hate every single brand and have horror stories.
My milele gas cooktop has two burners with 2 concentric rings that can be used for simmering or cooking in smaller pots. The inner ring is always in when ignited, but the outer ring is either on or off depending on how the knob is turned. Seem to work fine for me, but I’m not into gourmet cooking or wok frying.
Our new (to us) house has a 25 year old Thermador and yes, that is how the simmer works. Some people love it, but it still makes me nervous that gas is coming out, plus the clicking is very annoying.