<p>There is this girl that is also applying to UVA and she is salutatorian. She has double legacy. Can her applying to uva decrease my chances at being accepted? we are out of state.</p>
<p>no. it's simple as that. no</p>
<p>and if she gets in and you don't, it's only cuz there was something that she could offer more to the school. not just more than you but more than all the people that applied but didn't get in.</p>
<p>have you seen this?
[url=<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20030515035936/http://w2.shorecrest.org/MSUS/Col-Counsel/uva.html%5Duva.html%5B/url">http://web.archive.org/web/20030515035936/http://w2.shorecrest.org/MSUS/Col-Counsel/uva.html]uva.html[/url</a>]
search for "Analyzing the Tally"</p>
<p>My favorite part of this essay:
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Deferral, she reasoned, might nudge him to take a tougher course load in the spring. But in reality, deferrals offer applicants little hope. Only about 10 percent of those deferred in early decision get an offer of admission in the spring. The odds are slightly better for in-state applicants, but near-impossible for non-Virginians.
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<p>I got deferred and I am from PA. Yupppp.</p>
<p>it's not unheard of. i was an out of state deferral admit.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for posting that article, Hazel! It was nice to see the names of some old friends who have left the office since it was published. Only two people mentioned are still here, which isn't unusual. Admission is a "high turnover" business.</p>
<p>By the way, who had posted that they thought UVa came up with the idea to get rid of ED only after Harvard and Princeton did? I assured them that we had been discussing that move for years and that article shows this:
[QUOTE]
Soon, Blackburn will ask the university's admissions policy committee to
study whether U-Va. should drop early decision in favor of a nonbinding
alternative known as early action, which would offer students a verdict by
December without extracting a promise to enroll.
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<p>The idea of EA was a much better one. I wonder why they went against it.</p>
<p>Legacy is considered as an in-state (just for the selection process and the tuition will be out-of-state). So, she won't be part of the out-of-state applicants. You will be considered in the out-of-state pool where the screening standards are higher. At least, you won't be competing with her under the same pool. But, many schools do have an unadvertized a "quota" system. If many students are considered for the UVa admission for your high school, this will impact. However, when a few outstanding students are considered, it will be unlikely that the quota system would kick in. Best of luck.</p>
<p>Almost every bit of Silverline's post is wrong. Quite a first post.</p>
<p>But, Dean J, I have to comment--</p>
<p>Many admissions deans say that there are more qualified applicants than can be admitted. I'm assuming this is true at UVa. That being said--I am sure there is some sort of factor that admissions deans don't admit that they consider...and I'm not expecting you to admit it now. But I can't believe that if you have 10 super qualified kids from one school in North Jersey or a Maryland/DC suburb, that they all are going to get admitted. Therefore, I would believe that at some point you compare people within their school. If that's the case, it would be not in one's best interest to have many qualified people from his high school apply, correct?</p>
<p>When we read, we read randomly. I have no idea if 1 or 10 or 100 other students applied from the same school as the applicant I'm reading. The fact that some schools have dozens of students in each entering class shows that there is no quota. </p>
<p>At the end of the process, we run lists of all applicants from each school so we're prepared for questions about inconsistencies. We'll pull files when we see inconsistencies to double check our decisions. In some cases, we make changes, but oftentimes, there's a reason for decisions to stay as they are.</p>
<p>Now, in my private school days, practices were very different. I confess that I prefer the UVa way.</p>
<p>thank you Dean J! i am relieved now</p>
<p>No matter how hard UVa wants to deny, it is a known fact. Maybe, you can show how the Northern Virginian kids are treated. The Northern Virginia academic standards are so much higher, yet the acceptance level is not properly represented. I'd like to get some specific clarification on which part of my post was incorrect. Could you tell me that your legacy policy is different from what I said?</p>
<p>Silverline, this has been discussed again and again. Do a search and you will see that I have explained how our review works, talked about the prevalence of students from NOVA in our classes, and what it means to be a legacy. </p>
<p>No matter what an admission officer shares, some people will decide that they know our practices better.</p>