<p>We're outta state from NY, strong school district. We're both in the top ten of our class (she's ranked higher though)...she has a slightly higher GPA and way higher Sat (i have 1370...shes def in the 1400s) but i have much better ECs and awards...will UVA only take one of us from one school district if they take either?</p>
<p>Are my chances ruined now? ugh</p>
<p>UVA is a highly selective school, especially for out of staters. It will be a reach for her as well as you. I doubt they will be concerned that you are both from the same school--my son's school has 3-4 accepted there each year. The school is not concerned with ECs and awards from what I can see from acceptances I know. It is a high reach school for you unless you have some kind of a "hook" that they really want--something like contributing athlete. I know a legacy who was turned down with 1500+ in SATs (V&M) and high grades from a top high school. Your chances are not ruined. They were not good to begin with and they still are not good.</p>
<p>We have a holistic process here; We definitely consider involvement and commitment in our review process. </p>
<p>We don't have any rules about how many students we can accept from a given school and we don't read in regional batches, so applications from one school or town won't be read together and compared. </p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Thank you so much Dean J. You are a saint on these boards!! :-)</p>
<p>Getoutta,</p>
<p>I'm wondering if gender might give you an advantage over your female classmate. (that is, if you are a boy)</p>
<p>In his speech to to the First years at move-in day, President Casteen said that the class of 2010 has a female to male ratio of 57 to 43. </p>
<p>There was an article written by a dean of admission at Kenyon College this year that basically stated that they have to turn away many qualified female applicants.</p>
<p>The admitted students appear to be kept very similar to the applicant pool by gender at UVA. However, that's not the case at schools like W&M which do turn away many qualified female applicants for more male admits.</p>
<p>why on earth would a school deny admission to a more qualified female to replace her with a male, or vice versa? I don't understand..... but then again I don't understand affirmative action one bit (a la University of michigan).</p>
<p><em>shrug</em></p>
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The admitted students appear to be kept very similar to the applicant pool by gender at UVA. However, that's not the case at schools like W&M which do turn away many qualified female applicants for more male admits.
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<p>i'm pretty sure I read this year that they don't have different standards. Obviously now I can't find it. All I can find is this from a couple years ago:
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Karen Cottrell, associate provost for enrollment, says boys' applications don't receive preferential treatment. Girls typically have better high school transcripts, which count most heavily in admissions decisions. But she says male applicants' average SAT scores are higher
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<p>If you look at the admissions data, there are far more female applicants than male applicants. However, recently they've been making the gender ratio very close to 1:1. Also, male applicant average SAT scores are higher over the entire populace, not necessarily among the applicants W&M gets (minority females are more likely to take the SAT than minority males among other factors), and W&M talks about how the SAT scores aren't too big of a factor in their Admissions FAQ page or something anyway.
This is definitely different from when William and Mary's entering classes were clearly dominated by females- the male applicants didn't just get better overnight.</p>
<p>Looking at the numbers again, there is clearly a significant drop from the number of women who apply to the number of women who are admitted. This past year was an 8 point drop from 62% applicants being female to 54% admissions being female. This appears to happen to some degree or another over the years. I don't see how so many women can be rejected like that when peer schools like UVA keep their ratios similar, unless W&M happens to attract less qualified women for whatever reasons.</p>