girls at NU

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<p>Collegekid12, how would you feel if you were a female engineering student, or is compassion for the feelings of others not one of your strong suits? </p>

<p>In my opinion, this is an insensitive, shallow, superficial, and immature thread. Do those adjectives accurately describe you? No need to answer. </p>

<p>I'm embarrassed that this is a topic on the NU CC site. I think it's a sad reflection on some students (you, for example) who got into such a great school. I, sadly and naively assumed that students at NU would somehow be more enlightened, less crass. I thought that "character" was one of the things the ad com looked for. My bad. I should have remembered that even roses have thorns.</p>

<p>I might be ugly, I might be beautiful; you'll never know because your type is easy to spot and easy to avoid.</p>

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<p>Wintersilk, while I understand your feelings, and I agree the way this thread is slanted is not very mature, it IS a legitimate question for PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS, which is, ultimately, the primary purpose of this site.</p>

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<p>whoa, calm down wintersilk.</p>

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<p>arbiter213, Help me understand why this is a legitimate thread. Judging the hot factor of women without even meeting them is unfair. To categorize women in this way is unfair. To say that the engineering women are unattractive is downright rude and mean. I think it is equally unfair to say that the guys at NU, in general, aren't great looking.</p>

<p>Let prospective students make their own decisions about what is attractive when they get here. </p>

<p>Remember the adage, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?"</p>

<p>I've said enough about this and my opinion hasn't and won't change. It makes me embarrassed that an NU bulletin board would actually address how hot the girls are and how unattractive the guys are. </p>

<p>No one has to agree with me; it's my opinion, and like everyone else, I am expressing it. I'm willing to stand on my own on this one.</p>

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<p>Well lets see...</p>

<p>Princeton:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=302978&highlight=girls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=302978&highlight=girls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Cornell:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=386167&highlight=girls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=386167&highlight=girls&lt;/a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=367359&highlight=girls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=367359&highlight=girls&lt;/a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=353852&highlight=girls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=353852&highlight=girls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Brown:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=309959&highlight=girls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=309959&highlight=girls&lt;/a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=223548&highlight=girls%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=223548&highlight=girls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>et cetera</p>

<p>Get the point?</p>

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<p>and it doesn't change my opinion. Just because other schools are doing it doesn't make it right. I sound like my mother. LOL.</p>

<p>We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.</p>

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<p>All we can conclude is the fact that...there are some good-looking girls and some uglyass girls on campus.</p>

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<p>and in the world. and there are some good-looking guys and some uglyass guys on campus. So what? </p>

<p>Most often, the lesser attractive are the nicest because they aren't so full of themselves. Any day, give me an average looking great guy over a jerk who is handsome.</p>

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<p>"Less attractive people are nicer b/c they aren't full of themselves": Making less attractive, holier than thou people fell better about themselves since 1971.
On that note, I want someone who is disabled, because she has a greater appreciation of what she can do.
I also want a stupid person, because she is aware that she doesn't know much.
Finally, I want someone who is mean, because she will be more aware of the diversity of dispositions that people can have.</p>

<p>Seriously. I think this thread is a bit immature, but recognize its value. Part of the college experience is making bad choices with your fellow student, or students. We are nearing our sexual and aesthetic primes, and to waste those years with people you aren't attracted to would be sad. I recognize that at "nerdy" schools, there is a higher proportion of people who are more concerned with academics than their looks, so they "let themselves go" and appear less attractive. </p>

<p>Instead of respecting that interest, some of us have decided that it is easier to stereotype those who didnt articulate why they were interested worse than the supposed shallow people who want to hook up w some hotties. Who's ignorant, now?</p>

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<p>wintersilk,</p>

<p>I totally agree that "judging the hot factor of women without even meeting them is unfair", but a lot of the people here are already students at Northwestern, including myself. I have personally met many women at NU, and those that I've met are hot in my opinion.</p>

<p>"To categorize women in this way is unfair."</p>

<p>I strongly disagree. Nobody has said that being 'hot' (or not) has anything to do with your personality, those were simply statements of how attractive we find the people around us and that isn't something anyone would consider unfair. What would be unfair is if somebody refused to socialize with some1 because they are judging them only by their looks or conclude that their personality is not interesting if they don't find themselves attracted to them. So far, nobody has implied anything like that.</p>

<p>So after you say that you find it "unfair to categorize women in this way", you generalize based on looks by saying that "most often, the lesser attractive are the nicest because they aren't so full of themselves." Isn't making a conclusion about somebody's character based on their attractiveness (as you did) WAY MORE unfair than saying that one finds a certain group of people unattractive,without even implying how they might be personality wise?
think about it...</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, I totally understand what you mean. Many times I hate listenting to guys talking about how 'hot' girls are. But then the next day, I find myself talking to my best friends about the people WE think are cute and about how attractive we perceive NU guys to be, and I guess it just hits me that this is completely natural.</p>

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<p>well said, Cerebral</p>

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<p>You know what I haven't had in a while? Big League Chew...</p>

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<p>CerebralAssassin, I have no idea what you said. Sorry. I just couldn't follow it.</p>

<p>LaCoralie, the things that set me off were the comments about the women in engineering and it sounds like there are very few. If I were one of them, I'd feel unappealing and no one wants to feel that way. I think it was an insensitive remark. Then there was a post about NU women being "atrocious" and comparing them to the women at Carleton, which is also offensive.</p>

<p>I understand sex appeal, I appreciate good looking guys and talk about them with my girlfriends, but I would never talk about NU men or women being ugly on a forum representing NU on the www.&lt;/p>

<p>That's it for me. Just one person's opinion.</p>

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<p>My apologies. We'll try this again.</p>

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<li><p>It's okay for people to ask about the attractiveness of students.
Part of the college experience is spending time w/ student(s) who are you attracted to. being 18-22 is a prime slice of people's aesthetic and sexual primes. It is important that they spend that time happy and engage in acts that are only considered societally appropiate from the ages between 18 and 22. I'm not suggesting that students go out and have random sex with hotties. I am suggesting that being around students who you find attractive is a necessary precondition for having fruitful relationships with people during your time at NU. So the attractiveness of the female population at NU is as much of a determinant of happiness @ NU as almost any other facet.</p></li>
<li><p>You are being ignorant with your criticism of people asking about students' attractiveness.
So you are attacking people for being shallow because they want to know about students' attractiveness. I already showed why that attack is unfounded. I also think that your attack reveals your own ignorance. You don't recognzie the value of spending time with potential girlfriends/boyfriends/etc. That's fine.
What isn't fine is that you judge others based on their desires to be with people that are generally considered attractive.
What's worse is that you say that (most often) lesser attractive people are nicer. That statement is absolutely ridiculous, and I sincerely hope that you know that. You stereotyping attractive people (most often) as less than nice is supremely unfair. </p></li>
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<p>Conclusion: Interested parties in finding out about the girls @ NU attractiveness are very open with their desires. They want to find someone attractive on campus to spend time with. You are using their desires, twisting them for your own ends, and delivering ad hominem attacks on attractive people. The interested parties aren't stereotyping; they are looking for facts (i.e. Are the girls attractive?). You are stereotyping (i.e. "Most often, lesser attractive people are nicer"). So you are in the wrong, not the OP.</p>

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<p>There's so much to respond to here. </p>

<p>I didn't think it was nice to single out the engineering women.</p>

<p>I didn't think it was nice to say that NU women are as "atrocious" as the women at Carleton - which was insensitive.too.</p>

<p>Same for previously posted opinions that NU men are generally not much to look at. </p>

<p>A lot of freshmen come to school with insecurities about who they are, whether or not they will fit in, whether or not they will be considered attractive, whether or not they have the "right" stuff. Many arrive with confidence and many do not.</p>

<p>Judging attractiveness ahead of time is to make gross generalizations (pun intended) when only a few freshmen have yet to even set foot on campus. This isn't any different than someone months ago writing that being bright and being attractive are two qualities that don't often appear in the same person. I don't think that was fair, either. Do you? I know many attractive, bright people. Some of them are very nice people and some are cocky and rude, two qualities I personally do not find appealing.</p>

<p>People will start sizing each other up in every way as soon as they set arrive at NU. What one person finds attractive, another may not so I don't think it's fair to make a sweeping statement about the attractiveness of women (or men) at NU. </p>

<p>To your comment re: my ignorance: I suspect most students, if not all, hope to find "someone attractive on campus to spend time with," including me. I DO understand the value of spending time with potential significant others; I'm not sure where you got that. A big part of the college experience is in the social life if one hopes to have a complete college experience. </p>

<p>My definition of "attractive" may be different than my roommate's or anyone else's, and that's a good thing. Otherwise, there'd be a lot of vying for the attention of the same "beautiful people," leaving others left out of this 18-22 aesthetic and sexual prime, which I agree exists.</p>

<p>My bad on the sterotyping of attractive people being less nice. My roommate, for example, seems to be beautiful and nice, based on our facebook exchanges and also phone calls where I am getting familiar with her. I know many people who are attractive inside and out. I was being immature and taking a swipe at the person who took a swipe at me, suspecting that I am ugly because I had a contrary opinion to the thread when he doesn't have a clue about me or what I look like. </p>

<p>Thank you for your post C.A., I agree with parts, I disagree with parts, but I did understand your second try and appreciate that you took the time to try again.</p>

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<p>I stayed out of this one. </p>

<p>With a few weeks now past, how are you feeling about the sex appeal of your classmates?? Just had to ask.</p>

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<p>this thread needs a bump.</p>

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<p>HAving been here for nearly two months now, I can safely pass judgement: Overall, the girls of NU are way above average, and particularly above the average of schools of comparable academic caliber. The girls are generally very pretty to knock-out, and they're all smart. Most can even carry on a conversation. I'm happily spoken for, actually, but the girls are not bad at all. Even the engineers :) (In fact they're way above the average for us guys, poor girls)</p>

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<p>are they slutty or prude?</p>

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<p>Die in a fire?</p>