<p>The key to Princeton's success in lacrosse during the Tierney era has been his patented use of "boosters" - something difficult to do with larger rosters, and something the league is cracking down on.</p>
<p>What exactly do you mean by "boosters"? Princeton still had fantastic players last year, including a Rookie of the Year defenseman. Princeton didn't do well this year solely because of the loss of Ryan Boyle who is now off doing incredibly well in Major League Lacrosse. It was a bad year and by no means is it the end of Princeton's storied Lacrosse program.</p>
<p>How can you claim to be knowledgable about Princeton lax and not know what a "booster" is?</p>
<p>...How about answering the question?</p>
<p>LOL! Not long ago you loftily assured us that you "know exactly how Ivy sports work". That can't be true if you don't know what a "booster" is!</p>
<p>May I recommend the Lincoln book, plus the earlier book by Former President Bowen of Princeton?</p>
<p>Jeez, when I said "know exactly how Ivy sports work," I was referring to the football recruiting process that you were talking about.<br>
If anyone points out a flaw in your argument, you'll just go off on some rant, one that often involves some statistic or ranking that places Harvard at number 1. All I (and others) did was show that your belief that Princeton Lacrosse is in decline to be false and I then asked you a fairly simple question as I have never come across the word booster with that type of reference to Princeton Lacrosse. You then respond by making ad hominem attacks about my supposed "lack of knowledge."<br>
Keep in mind that this was orginally a post about how Princeton golf was highly ranked by a magazine. Discussing anything with you is an utterly pointless affair (unless of course its about how Harvard is better than Yale+Stanford+Princeton+MIT+Caltech+Oxford+Cambridge put together)</p>
<p>Perhaps one should state the information rather than insinuate.</p>
<p>Let me try to get this back to the original topic of golf rankings.</p>
<p>What a strange ranking of golf schools. No Duke? Be serious. Where is Stanford on either list? Wake Forest, home of Arnold Palmer, Curtis Strange and Lanny Wadkins not on the men's list? What is the criterea for entry onto the list? Of the 50 slots 33 are North and East of PA (inclusive). But the best golf is played outside the Northeast. Often at very highly rated academic schools like the ones I mentioned.</p>
<p>BTW, Tiger Woods has always tried to stay out of the "racial" discussions because he is an american with many different genes in his background. He is more Thai then African-American. Not sure why this is even under discussion.</p>
<p>From Golf Digest, which ranks "golf schools" 2 ways - for those interested primarily in the sport, and for those whose primary interest is academic, with golf secondary.</p>
<p>No Ivy school at all is listed on the <em>current</em> "academic" side for men; both Yale and Princeton are well down the list on the female side, at #24 and #21 respectively.</p>
<p>The upcoming list looks nothing like prior lists, and seems be considerably "Ivy-ized" ... with most Ivies represented.</p>
<p>Even Harvard is now listed as among the nation's best "golf schools" when academics are considered.</p>
<p>Golf Digest seems to churn their list even more than the Princeton Review!</p>
<p>Byerly, honestly, you hurt your case when you get involved on other boards.</p>
<p>Yes, I know that everyone on the Harvard board adores you as a demi-god, so why come off your pedestal and try to preach to us here? Trying to prove that Harvard is tops in everything just confirms why I'd never choose Harvard if I had a choice. You are just furthering the stereotype of all Crimsons acting superior and condescending.</p>
<p>But its not about Harvard, because this is the Princeton forum. This is about Princeton.</p>
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<p>"Can we please just have a post about Princeton's merits and not Harvard's? Harvard is not the end-all-be-all. Those are fine points about Harvard, but they should be on the Harvard board, not the Princeton one..."
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Oh, stuff it.</p>
<p>Harvard is #1 nationally in both rowing and sailing... both "white sports"
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<p>Why the heck did you even post these things? What does that have to do with the thread subject? The only shocker about what you say about Harvard is that you seem to expect us to care.</p>
<p>With that said, I've heard that actually the southern states (Cali, Florida, Arizona, etc) have the best golf programs, because of the weather and the fact that so many people around here play.</p>
<p>Yep. Byerly, you have to understand that the people here have had multiple choices of the most incredible schools in the country; we've made our choices for compelling reasons. Darling, we think Harvard is great too, but we choose Princeton. Deal with it.</p>
<p>De Gustibus Non Est Disputandem!</p>
<p>Fortunately for General Motors, a few people still buy Cadillacs instead of Mercedes or BMWs.</p>
<p>Disputandum. and I agree; it works both ways.</p>
<p>Actually, 80% of the time it only works one way!!</p>
<p>and here, it's probably higher.</p>
<p>No, I'd say the ratio here is somewhat similar.</p>
<p>You seriously believe 80% of the people in the Princeton forum wish we were at Harvard.</p>
<p>Well, mea, you have to realize that while I applied early decision to Princeton, I secretly wanted to go to Harvard all along. I would imagine the same is true of Phil, Zante and at least 80 % of the ED crowd. How else could you explain our actions?</p>
<p>Going off to sob into my crimson pillows...</p>
<p>Byerly,</p>
<p>They do not keep changing the rankings, they just have incorrect links to the right lists. I had to go to the balanced list to get the academic listing again and the academic list sent me to the balanced list.</p>
<p>The criterea for being on the academic only list was no golf scholarships. Thus eliminating excellent academic schools like Duke, Stanford and Wake Forest. The balanced list is most appropriate. I would note that the Princeton womens team made that list.</p>
<p>I also like the list of the best college golf courses. the only Ivy league course listed was Yale's course. Too bad the Dartmouth course with the ski jump did not make it. ;-)</p>
<p>A bit off topic, what Ivy league schools have their own golf courses? I know that Princeton, Yale and Dartmouth do. I also know that Harvard and Brown do not. I would suspect that Columbia and UPenn do not but I am unsure about Cornell. Does anyone know?</p>
<p>byerly's just chapped because harvard finished 11th (men) and 5th (women) in a ranking that INCLUDES academics. compare that to princeton's 2nd (men) and 1st (women).</p>