<p>Bentley is excellent for finance and accounting. I believe someone else stated it was also very good for those two respective fields. If you are looking for a just below top tier business school Bentley would be an extremely good choice if you wish to study finance and/or accounting. I decided to enroll at Penn State because I was originally going to do finance but changed my major to business management/administration.</p>
<p>Do remember I said programs I could get into. I can't get into any top programs</p>
<p>WashU, Tulane</p>
<p>It doesn't matter that much, if you're in the top 50, you're going to a good business school and will be well prepared for the real world. Get off your lazy ass and get a job, your degree once you have the job will only carry you so far.</p>
<p>i don't quite get why Haas receives no love on these forums...the numbers and programs speak for themselves, and yet Stern and a lot of other lesser programs are discussed...whats the deal???</p>
<p>"It doesn't matter that much, if you're in the top 50, you're going to a good business school and will be well prepared for the real world. Get off your lazy ass and get a job, your degree once you have the job will only carry you so far."</p>
<p>biz schools outside top 10 only have regional reputations, not with major corporations..so like schools like maryland ull have lots of competition for very few good jobs.</p>
<p>That is utterly false. For one thing there are numerous major corporations in every region that will recruit at the major schools in that region. Secondly many of the large Fortune 500 companies recruit far deeper than the Top 10. All the top accting firms recruit very broadly.</p>
<p>It depends on the competitiveness of what you want to do. Sure, you could go to any top 50 and get a job at most places, but good luck getting recruited by McKinsey or Goldman at a non top 10 business school. Sure, you could always go to them but that's still not going to eliminate their prestige name bias.</p>
<p>There are many place to work besides the few that recruit only at a few select schools. Many people don't even want that lifestyle. I have had many friends go the McK and Goldman route only to get sick of the 80 hour weeks and travel and leave after a few years for something a little more balanced.</p>
<p>" large Fortune 500 companies recruit far deeper than the Top 10"</p>
<p>barrons: I agree with that. But, we're talking about business schools here. Sure, many of Fortune 500 companies look at many schools but they will look for engineers, scientists, cs majors, econ, english, whatever majors. undergrad biz, excluding top 10, does not have as much reputation for fortune 500 companies as other majors.</p>
<p>take uiuc... probably has a top 20 biz school rite? only 12 kids got into ibanking out of a class of 1000+ biz students.</p>
<p>There is nothing in common between Ibanks and Fortune 500 firms. Look how many went to GE, P&G, and scores of other companies that are household names. For example, last year--which was still a tough recruiting year--Wisconsin had ug BBA's go to the following companies: 3M, Abbott Labs, Accenture, American Express, American Family Insurance, Bank One, Best Buy, Capitol One, Cargill, Chubb, Deloitte Consulting, Duff & Phelps, Eli Lilly, Epic Systems, Ernst Finance, Fidelity, Ford, GE, GM, General Mills, Hewitt, Intel, Kimberly Clark, Lasalle Bank, Kohl's, Marsh Inc., Miller Brewing, Philip Morris, Price Waterhouse, Prudential Captal, Sears, St. Paul Ins, Target, Travelers Insurance, Wausau Insurance, Wells Fargo, Zurich NA.</p>
<p>Someone mentioned Tepper. Does CMU/Tepper have good programs in the more traditional side of business like accounting, marketing or management? Would you pick Tepper over say, UT-Austin or WUSTL, if you want to specialize in these areas?</p>
<p>And why is the WUSTL business program ranked so high?</p>
<p>yes.. tepper is ranked #6 btw according to usnews.. and very good mba program as well as #1 quantitative finance/accounting programs.</p>
<p>tepper is good for quantitative/theory side of business... thats wut recruiters like about them anyways.. they tend to stray away from the typical businessman/woman mold</p>
<p>Tepper's strength is in the quantitative as in analysis and oper management, but that doesn't necessarily translate to finance and accounting (especially accounting), right?</p>
<p>"they tend to stray away from the typical businessman/woman mold"
So if I want a more typical business career (as in marketing or management), I should choose McCombs or Kelley over Tepper?</p>
<p>Any comments on WUSTL's business program?</p>
<p>CMU may not be the most reputable for finance, but thats becasue they have more diverse interests. Those who pursue finance do well, get good jobs, and have a good quantitative background. also note that undergrad finance majors have access to some quant. finance classes which are in the top quant finance/financial engineering program in the country. and graduatign with masters in quant finance will get you a 300k+ salary(granted program is hard to get into).</p>
<p>Tepper > McCombs > Kelley
Tepper will be strongly recruited in Boston/NYC/Washington markets
McCombs will be strongly recruited in Southern area.
Kelley in midwest..</p>
<p>If we're talking NYC jobs here.. Tepper has the upper hand definately. considering the size of their class compared to these flagship state schools and the fact that its got great reputation a lot better reputation with recruiteres.. sure top kids from kelley/mccombs will also get good jobs in NYC area.. but in less magnitude
heres what usnews says(for undergrad):
1.upenn
2.mit
3.uc-berkeley
4.umich-annarbor
5.nyu
6.carnegie mellon
7.unc
8.Texas-Austin
9.USC
10. UVA
11.Indiana
12. U-Illinois-Urbana Champaign
13. Wash U
14. Cornell U</p>
<p>You got a good point re: Tepper's finance/financial engineering.</p>
<p>Allow me to elaborate further. Let's say I am not interested in i-banking as I want a more normal lifestyle (like seeing my kids grow up). If my aspiration is to be in accounting and be recruited by the Big Four; or join the marketing or management team at a global firm like GE, would I still be better off with Tepper as compared to McCombe or Kelley?</p>
<p>I would shoot for McCombs PPA Program if that was your goal.</p>
<p>My friend graduated from the PPA program and was recruited by Price Waterhouse Coopers and worked there for a little before quitting and getting a job at Goldma Sachs.</p>
<p>** The Big 4 accounting firms are Deloitte and Touche, Ernst & Young, KPMG, and PricewaterhouseCoopers. Middle market firms include Grant Thornton, BDO Seidman, and Mann Frankfort Stein & Lipp. The Big 4 have large global presences in every major city in the world, whereas the middle market firms focus on the United States. All firms recruit heavily from the PPA and accounting undergraduate program. The PPA has an extremely well structured internship recruiting program exclusive only to PPA majors. **</p>
<p>If you want to do Accounting, McCombs is the way to go.
<a href="http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/students/uaa/home/visitor/whyppa.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/students/uaa/home/visitor/whyppa.asp</a></p>