<p>What high schools do are considered A grade schools(In U of M's perspective of course)?</p>
<p>I know that DCDS, Troy, Novi, Groves, EGR, Detroit Catholic Cntral, Ladywood, and a few more are realy good looking on an application? What other schools are included?</p>
<p>You dare write DCD before Troy? Infidel!</p>
<p>Andover, Cranbrook/Kingswood, Orchard Lake St. Mary's Prep, Birmingham, W. Bloomfield, Mercy.</p>
<p>Grosse Pointe schools</p>
<p>One school nobody's included...the International Academy. haha, I know, shameless plug for my own school, but we have an amazingly high acceptance rate to UM. A lot of alumni came to visit us today, because UM starts again tomorrow, and apparently there's like an IA cult or something there. Most of you have probably never heard of it. Small, all-IB, in Bloomfield Hills, near Lahser?</p>
<p>Bronx Science. We have almost a 80% acceptance rate and this is from out of state. And a lot of people are accepter (like 60 or 70 in the past two years).</p>
<p>How about Southfield High School?...........HA! Never!</p>
<p>I remember reading a breakdown of UM's application point system before they switched over.</p>
<p>They listed high schools they awarded extra points to in Michigan. I believe that Okemos got the most points out of any (8 points).</p>
<p>To put that in perspective, you normally were accepted if you had 100 points. 70 are your grades, ~11 test scores, 10 points for being instate, ~8 or so for class difficulty, then some others. It was awhile ago.</p>
<p>The schools that got the highest points were the east coast prep schools - Andover, Exeter, Groton, etc. The next batch included the best Michigan privates - DCDS, Greenhills. The next batch included the best publics and Cranbrook. I'm not sure about any other schools, but I remember these very clearly. I don't know where Int'l Academy and Okemos fit in, but I'm fairly certain that no schools in Michigan - private or public - were in the top category.</p>
<p>Yes, what I read was exclusively Michigan high schools. Though I am fairly certain that DCD was listed and given perhaps 6 points. Anyway, things change. Trying to break it down any further than we are is meaningless.</p>
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I remember reading a breakdown of UM's application point system before they switched over.</p>
<p>They listed high schools they awarded extra points to in Michigan. I believe that Okemos got the most points out of any (8 points).</p>
<p>To put that in perspective, you normally were accepted if you had 100 points. 70 are your grades, ~11 test scores, 10 points for being instate, ~8 or so for class difficulty, then some others. It was awhile ago.
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<p>Don't forget the 20 points to got for being an URM...or the (not mutually exclusive) 20 points you got for being low-income. Not that I have a problem with adversity-based benefits. I just really hate racial affirmative action--don't get me started. Just seems silly that a poor URM's 2.0 was worth a 4.0 from a middle class non-urm coming out of the same school w/ the same grades and that simply being an URM was worth more than the difference between a 15 and a 36 act score...Anyway I digress.</p>
<p>No school in Michigan got the full 10 school points. They were only a select few east coast boarding schools. Best in state was an 8 and there were only a few.</p>
<p>what counts as a URM for michigan? Im asian and wondering if I would count as one (i doubt it, but anyones call)</p>
<p>Hey so the michigan point system is thrown out yes, but do you think the way they admit you is SIMILAR to that? Like if you would have gotten in on the point system, would u probably get in now too? (THere is thing thing online where tu can type in your points and see)</p>
<p>weedit, all schools practice some form of AA. I do not think someone with a 2 point and a 15 ACT is going to get into Michigan no matter how under represented they may be. It's not like Michigan is desperate to fill quotas. Look to some of the schools in the hall of shame like Miami of Ohio and Missouri. They are not very well represented by any minorities at all.</p>
<p>If you would like to be a minority look to apply to historically black schools. You would be the URM there.</p>
<p>pink panther, Asian is not a minority at Michigan. The usual URM are American Indian, African American and Hispanic. That is true of most schools. It's just the way things go.</p>
<p>Yes, according to the administration the new holistic approach was "designed to keep the 'diversity' and student body numbers as a whole unchanged."</p>
<p>Basically, they do the same crap, but now they're calling it something else. Only 5 more years and a new FOIA request would unviel what is sure to be the exact same thing.</p>
<p>Ugh, just 2 more years to the MCRI passes...I'd go collect signatures in AA, but I would most likely be attacked by the (very militant) AA supporters.</p>
<p>Obviously they practice some discretion, but an in the old system a poor URM athlete with a 2.5 and a 20 on the ACT would not only be accepted, but would pass the MANDATORY acceptance level beyond which adcoms can exercise no discretion.</p>
<p>weedit, if you think adcoms can not practice discretion, you're dreaming. I know kids who had great stats who were turned down. What's the point of no return? I've never seen any stats like that. The adcoms can pick and choose all they want. If an athlete gets in it's because he is recruited and that's a whole different animal then. The general population applying to Michigan with a 20 ACT is not going to get a foot in the door, I don't care if they're purple.</p>
<p>Well, they surely could under the points system, and the new system was intended to keep numbers the same.</p>
<p>They obviously don't have the mandatory admit line of points anymore, but when 3.0 22 in-stater URMS are getting in over 4.0 AP everything 1500 out of state kids my BS meter starts going off.</p>
<p>You keep raising the GPA's of your mythical admit. Tell me, do you actually know anyone with those stats who were admitted? I don't.</p>
<p>The U doesn't like to air its dirty laundry. The daily reported a few years ago that URM football recruits(back a few years ago so they were admitted under points system and therefore got +2 to their overall HS gpa or 1+ to their gpa and the difference between a 15 and a 36 act score --take your pick) graduated at rates exponentially lower than average admits.</p>
<p>and thats including all the "perks" everyone looks the other way for</p>