Good Idea or No?

<p>My C++ teacher is a *****. Read the letter than I'm planning on sending to my principal to sort things out and tell me if it is a bunch of bs, or if I could actually do some damage with this. :)</p>

<p>Dear Principal,
Hello, this is XXXXXXXXXXXX, a senior in Ms. Kelli Beck’s sixth period C++ Programming class. I feel that I have been wronged academically on several occasions, and wish to express my concerns. I do not want to argue with Ms. Beck because she will not change her mind about these issues, and I feel it is futile to argue with her. Knowing how unfair she is to me, I fear that she will charge me with insubordination if I argue. I ask that you please don’t charge me with this because this is a serious issue. I joined C++ because I was interested in programming, and there was not a prerequisite for a previous programming class. A friend of mine whose name I will not mention told me it was a good class, and that the teacher, Mr. Krane, would help me out since I was new to programming. I soon discovered that Mr. Krane was gone, and that Ms. Beck was my new teacher, to which I was completely o.k. with for the time being. I want to mention that I currently have several classes that one would normally think are extremely hard compared to C++. I, however, believe C++ to be much harder than those classes because of the minimal help I receive, and the harsh policies that further hinder my performance. I do not however say that it is entirely not my fault, because I have been somewhat neglectful of this class due to the grades I have been getting. Nevertheless, when I keep in lots of effort, I feel it goes to waste. I used to ask Ms. Beck a few easy (beginner) questions which she helped me answer, but when I asked for help on certain programs I didn’t understand, she was unable to help me, because my problems were either dumb or abstract (I do not know for sure). I completely stopped asking questions because I believe I will not get a helpful response, and it seems as if she ignores me, or doesn‘t hear me, or doesn‘t care about my question(s). The way she handles my assignments is what I believe greatly hinders my performance in the class. It makes me feel hated, because I have never had a teacher that is so unbelievably unfair and absolute, especially towards a student that is nearly failing, and has had no prior experience in the field of study. (One might say this is similar to a teacher being harsh on a student who never took regular Biology, but went straight to AP Biology) I have never failed a class. However, I am mainly writing this letter for one specific occurrence. We recently started Chapter 9 in late November/ early December. I had great difficulty understanding anything out of the chapter, even after I had read it. She assigned five programs due at the first week of December, if I remember correctly. I had not finished those problems when they were due, but completed them on a half day, working on them for around six or seven hours. I knew that the work would be counted late, and that one of the extra problems (the sixth problem) was due for full credit the next day. I finished all five of the half credit programs, including the one for full credit. The day before, she had also assigned a set of questions and answers due “Electronically at the beginning of the hour.” Due to the disconnection of the computers in the C++ room to the school shared drive, I saved everything I had on a disk, hoping to open them up during class and turn them in for the agreed amount of credit. I was uninformed by the teacher throughout the whole semester that disks would not work. When I arrived at class, we were to start taking notes, and the rule is that our monitors are to be shut off. I took the notes and turned them in as expected, and then asked if I may resolve my disk issue. Ms. Beck said I would receive no credit for the questions, because they were due “Electronically at the beginning of the hour.” I complained that I had them finished by the beginning of the hour, and did not attempt to work on them in any way past the deadline, and that I was unaware disks would not work on these computers. She still said I would not get any credit. I was told at the same time, however, that I would be allowed to turn in the five half credit programs, along with the one full credit program (which she said was now half credit) the next day after I had resolved my issue. I wrote this letter the day this happened, and therefore I can’t explain what happened the next day. She knows that I am nearly failing her class, yet she continues to treat me harshly. Normally, I would think that a student who is failing a class would not get treated so coldly. She argued once that this is a weighted grade class, and there are higher expectations. I agree to this completely. However, I disagree with the way she is treating me as a student. When higher expectations are mentioned, I think of having work done on time, being respectful, and not cheating. I have most certainly been respectful (there were times were I felt I would be unable to control my voice, but I kept my mouth shut), I have not cheated, and I try to get my work done on time. However, because I am horrible at this programming language, I am not able to get the programs done. I try to get what I can with half credit, which upholds the weighted grade policy. I am not writing this letter to in any way insult or disrespect my teacher; I am not writing it to cause any major disturbance within the school; I am most certainly not writing this letter out of spite. I am writing it because I feel I am being treated unfairly, and because I am nearly failing the class. Ms. Beck may say that I sit chatting to my friend next to me, and sometimes that is true. I have no idea how to do the program during that time; she hardly ever makes us read and hardly ever tells us that the things we read will be applicable the next day on the programs we will attempt to complete. I have little time to sort out her expectations and policies, because I have had SAT II’s, SAT I’s, College Applications, and four other time consuming weighted grade / AP classes to attend to. Please consider this letter not as a complaint about the teacher, but more of a complaint of how I am being treated. I really enjoy working with this programming field, but I feel that I want to drop the class because Ms. Beck will continually be unfair (she even said that she was going easy on me the same day, which I found extremely hard to believe, and she said she will be harder on me next semester). I have talked to friends and parents over this issue, and they agree that I am indeed being treated unfairly. If nothing can be done about this, then I will without hesitation drop the class, and go to one where I will not have to worry about dreading sixth hour the whole day. If you feel that this letter is trash and deserves to be unread because it is a dumb issue that I am over exemplifying, please feel free to throw it away and ignore me. </p>

<pre><code> Thank you, XXXXXXXXXX
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<p>I couldn't comment on whether or not you should send a letter to the principle or not, but I definitely don't think you should send it the way it is now. You sound totally unprofessional. It seems just like a long whining rant. Try to plead and reason with him instead of whining and sounding jackassish.</p>

<p>I hope you don't take offense to this. I'm just trying to help.</p>

<p>Really? That's odd, I thought it sounded sort of formal lol. I thought a letter would be awkward also, but I don't know how to explain all this while speaking without sounding like a prick. And even if I did explain to him, could he do anything?</p>

<p>Get your parents involved... you going in alone will not solve anything... soley b/c the administration is not going to rectify a student/teacher issue with just the student complaining... if a parent gets involved they get scared...</p>

<p>dude, you sound like a querulous child.</p>

<p>get your parents to writesomething to the principal</p>

<p>I agree with Jack. The letter is sounds like a metric ton of whining. You need to learn how to write; I hope your college essays were a lot better. You say the same thing (literally) six or seven times in the course of the essay. </p>

<p>I also have no idea what logic you're using. If you're bad at an elective class, as in you're falling behind all your other peers, then drop the class or take the bad grade. "I know I'm bad at the language, but I can't meet her expections because I've had this and that and this and that to worry about." Hell, I will graduate with 13 APs and I suck at Math and I try just as hard as you do but I don't expect the teacher to lower her expectations just for me. I may agree with the floppy disk incident, but otherwise you are completely out of line. Let's omnislash this post:</p>

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I, however, believe C++ to be much harder than those classes because of the minimal help I receive, and the harsh policies that further hinder my performance.

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Ok, this is your main complaint. Let's go on...</p>

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the harsh policies that further hinder my performance.

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What harsh policies? All I see is the floppy incident.</p>

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she was unable to help me, because my problems were either dumb or abstract (I do not know for sure).

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Are you sure she didn't go over it with you because she had mentioned it beforehand and you missed it? Maybe because the rest of the class understood it and she didn't want to take up class time to help one student? When I couldn't understand implicit differentiation in Calc I had to come in after school until I got it (I'm very math-stupid).</p>

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The way she handles my assignments is what I believe greatly hinders my performance in the class. It makes me feel hated, because I have never had a teacher that is so unbelievably unfair and absolute,

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You still haven't given one concrete example of her being unfair.</p>

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especially towards a student that is nearly failing, and has had no prior experience in the field of study. (One might say this is similar to a teacher being harsh on a student who never took regular Biology, but went straight to AP Biology)

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What kind of a school do you go to? At my school the Bio teachers don't put up with any crap from people who haven't taken regular biology, they're expected to know just as much if they want to enroll in the AP class. It's a priveledge, not a right.</p>

<p>Moving on...

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Ms. Beck said I would receive no credit for the questions, because they were due “Electronically at the beginning of the hour.” I complained that I had them finished by the beginning of the hour, and did not attempt to work on them in any way past the deadline, and that I was unaware disks would not work on these computers.

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If you attend a public school, it's federal law that the school must show you forms that you must sign that clearly state an Acceptable Computer Use guideline. If they did not, then you may have a case here.</p>

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However, I disagree with the way she is treating me as a student. When higher expectations are mentioned, I think of having work done on time, being respectful, and not cheating.

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What about understanding the material? I dropped out of an AP art class once because I could not break a B in the class. It just wasn't for me.</p>

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because I am horrible at this programming language, I am not able to get the programs done. I try to get what I can with half credit, which upholds the weighted grade policy.

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This policy intrigues me, please go into detail.</p>

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I have no idea how to do the program during that time; she hardly ever makes us read and hardly ever tells us that the things we read will be applicable the next day on the programs we will attempt to complete.

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WAIT. This is an honors/ap weighted class. Nobody should have to hold your hand and make you read. You should read on your own. What would be the point of having the reading if it didn't pertain to your programming!? This is by far your weakest point.</p>

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I have had SAT II’s, SAT I’s, College Applications, and four other time consuming weighted grade / AP classes to attend to.

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It sounds like you go to a competitive school. I bet other students are dealing with the same thing and still making the cut.</p>

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Please consider this letter not as a complaint about the teacher, but more of a complaint of how I am being treated.

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Once again, I have no idea why you expect her to treat you as a special case. </p>

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I have talked to friends and parents over this issue, and they agree that I am indeed being treated unfairly.

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Do not include this in a persuassive(sp?) letter. It does not show professionalism; their opinions are biased due the one side of the story they have heard, and do not matter. At all.</p>

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If nothing can be done about this, then I will without hesitation drop the class, and go to one where I will not have to worry about dreading sixth hour the whole day.

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Nobody is making you take the class to begin with, why should they worry about you dropping it? Maybe it's best for you.</p>

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If you feel that this letter is trash and deserves to be unread because it is a dumb issue that I am over exemplifying, please feel free to throw it away and ignore me.

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Yes, because it is always a good idea to preemptively counter his reaction by asserting his opinion on any respective outcome!</p>

<p>Truth be told, and I'm really not doing this to be mean, but I think you will put yourself in a most embarassing(sp?) situation if you send in this letter. If it bugs you that much, please go request to talk to him directly. It will serve you MUCH better.</p>

<p>wow, that was a very comprehensive analysis</p>

<p>Yeah... i actually read them all lol</p>

<p>that was one of the most boring things i've ever read; if you really care enough, go to your principal and set up a meeting. Sending him a huge, long letter will just irriate him and waste his time. Also, I bet you can explain your situation in person much better. If you're scared of your principal, then just get over it. Also, I'm not sure what you want him to do...tell your teacher that you think she's being unfair? This is really an issue that I think needs to be resolved with a student, teacher, principal conferece. Although this won't be all that great for your already bad relationship with your teacher, it's probably the best way to go.</p>

<p>Wow, HV got it spot on! I think here is one more....</p>

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Please consider this letter not as a complaint about the teacher, but more of a complaint of how I am being treated.

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<p>I don't get it. Whats the difference between ranting about a teacher's behaviour and complaining how the behaviour of that teacher affects you?</p>

<p>PS: I found the same problems as HV did....</p>

<p>You are too repetitive. it seems as if you got nothing better to say but copy and paste the same arguement over and over again to fill up the empty space.</p>

<p>EXAMPLES...I fail to see how she has being unfair. Ok, she won't let you turn in the floppy. But perhaps she applies the same policy towards all of her students? She might be harsh but not necessarily unfair.</p>

<p>Despite you are saying you did not write this out of spite, it sounds ALOT like a hate letter....RANT, RANT, RANT.
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if I could actually do some damage with this.

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Yes your motive is vindictive and it SHOWS in your letter. </p>

<p>Jackson is right. Don't send it at all or at least revise it for god's sake...</p>

<p>OT (I browsed through your posts and found certain things to be quite disturbing)</p>

<p>I am sorrying I am bringing this up but it seems as if you tend to PRESUME alot. </p>

<p>You said you will have a 2100 SAT but you ended up with a 1840. You said you will get 4.33 GPA for the first semester of senior year but your report card is filled with C, D and F. Heck, you even predicted a 4.66/4 GPA for your second semester....</p>

<p>I was like you before and out of experience, I must say such behaviours are very destructive. its good to be sanguine but if you are optimistic enough to the point your acts will actually hinder your progess, its prob time to realize you should be more realistic.</p>

<p>Your life is not over. it actually barely began. i would advice try and go to a cc and transfer in two years.</p>

<p>Ok first off, I said I had an F because of some unfinished tests which he gave me zeroes on; I completed them and my grade is now a B. The C is in C++ itself. The report card I was referring to was my second quarter.. I will not have less than a 4.0 for the semester. The reason it is so low anyways is because I still have been procrastinating.. I retook my SAT again and I am definately sure this time I got 2050 ATLEAST. And yes, I predict a 4.83 for my second semester, because I know I'm capable. I just don't apply myself like I should. </p>

<p>Now, for the teacher. Throughout that letter I was really <strong><em>ed off when I wrote it. I don't see how it is whining, instead of explaining the situation (maybe I should shorten it though, I agree). The reason I'm complaining is because I think she is racist. There is a football jock friend of mine that sits right next to me and asks her for help all the time, and she helps him. He even told me that she practically gave him some of the problems. He has an even lower grade than I do. On top of that, he even told me he talks to her a lot in the hallways, etc. She just graduated from college, so that doesn't surprise me. About not stating the policies - Late work is 50% off. She says she will accept my work, but when I go to turn it in she rejects it. Example - I bought in a completed extra credit assignment which she said I could bring in, and didn't accept it. Another thing; for those of you that say other kids do well in that class, I've talked to just about every other kid, and only one other kid in the class including me has not had previous programming experience, and that kid is the football jock next to me. (I'm not biased or anything, I'm just using a stereotype to make a point) I've even talked to some of the kids who are in the top of their class; one person who is easily in top 10% has a low B. Another kid who is taking AP Calculus junior year has a 70. So, having no previous experience and jumping into a course like this has been detrimental to me. When I selected the course it said all I needed was algebra II OR Visual basic. I assumed since I did well in algebra II, I would be fine. When I ask her questions, it is not in front of the class. We have time to do programs in class. Sometimes I get an odd error, and since I have minimal experience, I ask her. She looks at my code for like one or two minutes and suggests every time the most obvious things, and if she can't find it she just says I don't know. One time I even asked her how to use a specific function which I did not understand, and she just told me to figure it out. I know I'm sounding like a *</em></strong> right now but I've never been treated this way by a teacher. I think I also forgot to mention that this teacher is a first year teacher. Every person I've talked to says she is a horrible teacher and a *****. Nobody likes her, expect for the fact that everyone thinks she is "hot". </p>

<p>I know my points are unorganized, but I am very sleepy so excuse it.</p>

<p>my eyes are burning.</p>

<p>Paragraphs, man. Paragraphs. They make things SO much easier to read.</p>

<p>Pyro is right. </p>

<p>Regardless, omnislash:</p>

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I still have been procrastinating... I just don't apply myself like I should.

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Most people feel this way their senior year.</p>

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I don't see how it is whining, instead of explaining the situation

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Did you read my previous post? You explain almost nothing in that entire letter. Just a lot of hot air. </p>

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The reason I'm complaining is because I think she is racist.

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Woah, that's a powerful claim to make, and you better have something to back it up. Let's see...</p>

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There is a football jock friend of mine that sits right next to me and asks her for help all the time, and she helps him. He even told me that she practically gave him some of the problems. He has an even lower grade than I do.

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To play devil's advocate, maybe she just made a judgement call on the personality of you two and likes him better. Are there any other kids in your class of your color towards whom she DOES or DOES NOT exhibit this behavior?</p>

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On top of that, he even told me he talks to her a lot in the hallways, etc. She just graduated from college, so that doesn't surprise me.

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See previous comment. :rolleyes: </p>

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About not stating the policies - Late work is 50% off. She says she will accept my work, but when I go to turn it in she rejects it. Example - I bought in a completed extra credit assignment which she said I could bring in, and didn't accept it.

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Now this I believe is in violation of the school code. This is all you must say to the principal to have him look into the matter. </p>

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Another thing; for those of you that say other kids do well in that class, I've talked to just about every other kid, and only one other kid in the class including me has not had previous programming experience,

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While I agree that it may be unfortunate they did not list previous programming experience as a requirement, I find it in the same line as the AP Bio student who opted to take the class without regular bio. By signing up, you're saying that you can play ball with the big guys. Again, see my previous post. If you felt that you have been misled by the course guide or your counselor, drop the class. Don't expect them to go easy on you though.</p>

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just using a stereotype to make a point

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From personal experience, that rarely works. =)</p>

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I've even talked to some of the kids who are in the top of their class; one person who is easily in top 10% has a low B. Another kid who is taking AP Calculus junior year has a 70.

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I fail to see the correlation between these things. I could be at the top of my class and still fail band because I entered the highest symphonic concert without knowing how to play an instrument. It's really the same thing.</p>

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So, having no previous experience and jumping into a course like this has been detrimental to me. When I selected the course it said all I needed was algebra II OR Visual basic. I assumed since I did well in algebra II, I would be fine.

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Again, if you feel you have been misled please drop the class and save your GPA while you still can. Colleges will understand, especially if you have your counselor write a statement to them.</p>

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When I ask her questions, it is not in front of the class. We have time to do programs in class. Sometimes I get an odd error, and since I have minimal experience, I ask her. She looks at my code for like one or two minutes and suggests every time the most obvious things, and if she can't find it she just says I don't know.

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That's just being ****-poor teacher. Also mention this to the principal.</p>

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One time I even asked her how to use a specific function which I did not understand, and she just told me to figure it out.

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My comp sci teacher has told me the same thing whenever I ask about specifics. I may be mistaken, but I believe it's not an unfair request of advanced students. </p>

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I know I'm sounding like a ***** right now but I've never been treated this way by a teacher. I think I also forgot to mention that this teacher is a first year teacher. Every person I've talked to says she is a horrible teacher and a *****.

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That may put some fear in her if you talk to the principal, then. =)</p>

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Nobody likes her, expect for the fact that everyone thinks she is "hot".

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Do not mention this to the principle. ;)</p>

<p>Either way, do not use that letter. Go to your school's main office and request a conference with the Principal regarding matters pertaining to difficulties with faculty. You are likely to be far more successful in your endeavors.</p>

<p>-HV</p>

<p>*edit: Spelled principal incorrectly in the penultimate paragraph.</p>

<p>too much whining indian, way too much.</p>

<p>I guess you could say it is b.s. I was extremely ****ed when I wrote this, which was after school right after the class. I was just so taken aback that she would actually be that unfair regarding the floppy disk. I've decided to trash the letter though. The policy in my school is that if you drop a class, you recieve an F, which is one of the reasons why I'm so worried. Another reason is that it takes a TON of paperwork to drop any class in my school, and it rarely happens. Also there are no other dark skinned students in my class. Oddly enough, when she left the room yesterday I asked the visual basic teacher if I could talk to the principal about the issue. She said I should try to resolve it with the teacher and if that doesn't work talk to the principal. However, today my teacher seemed really nice and she helped me out becuase I'm pretty sure the visual basic teacher told her I planned on talking to the principal.. do you guys think that's it?</p>