Good news for OOS students, not so great for in-state students

<p>Hopefully, this article will bring up the hopes of OOS students; don't feel like getting into UVA is impossible:</p>

<p>Cavalier</a> Daily</p>

<p>Poor economy affects college admissions
Fewer out-of-state students expected to accept admissions offers from the University because of poor economy</p>

<p>Jane Ma, Cavalier Daily Associate Editor
Published: Thursday, March 12 2009</p>

<p>The current state of the economy is causing some colleges and universities to attempt formulating new ways to gauge whether high school student applicants will accept admissions offers. As a result, admissions rates are changing to compensate for students and their families potentially concerned about their financial futures.</p>

<p>“All previous yield data is less reliable this year,” University Admissions Dean Greg Roberts said. “We’re using our expertise and professional judgment to make what we hope are good strong estimated guesses as to how many offers to make.”</p>

<p>Because of the economy, it is likely that fewer out-of-state students will accept admissions offers from the University, Roberts said.</p>

<p>“We predict our yield will drop a little bit out-of-state because of the economy,” he said. “It is likely that more students will stay home and attend their own state institutions.”</p>

<p>**Because of this, the University will make more offers to out-of-states students and less to in-state students, so as to keep class proportions the same.</p>

<p>“We will continue to enroll the class that’s with 67 percent in-state and 33 percent out-of-state — that’s our target,” Roberts said. “Now to achieve that, we may need to make fewer offers to Virginians since we anticipate that more Virginians will accept our offers due to the economy.”**</p>

<p>Roberts also added that he expects the University’s switch to the Common Application to affect the admissions return rate.</p>

<p>“This is our first year with the Common Application and there is normally a two to three percent decrease in yield for schools moving to the Common Application,” he said.</p>

<p>Many private institutions, meanwhile, also will increase admissions rates to compensate for the possibility of students declining offers. Marymount University will likely accept more applicants this year, Director of Undergraduate Admissions Mike Canfield said.</p>

<p>“We might be looking into accepting three to five percent more [applicants], but we’re not looking into any broad changes,” he said.</p>

<p>Canfield also added that Marymount has increased outreach to families to accommodate changes to their financial situations.</p>

<p>“We’re trying to make families aware about making sure they let us know if there are changes that aren’t reflected on their FAFSA,” Canfield said. “I’ve talked to a number of families where a family member has lost a job ... [and] the FAFSA does not reflect their current reality.”</p>

<p>Although some private institutions plan to offer more generous financial aid packages to appeal to students and their families, the University does not plan to follow suit, Roberts said.</p>

<p>“We already have what we consider generous financial aid packages,“ he said. “We’re very sympathetic to families.”</p>

<p>Many high school students take into account financial aid packages when deciding which higher education institution to attend. Jeffrey Hatakeba, a senior at Mountain View High School in Mountain View, Ca., said finances are an important factor in determining which school he will attend.</p>

<p>“I applied for financial aid and the amount I receive will definitely affect which school I go to,” he said.</p>

<p>Even so, Keith Roots, director of the University’s College Guide Program, said finances are not the only aspect students will consider when choosing a college.</p>

<p>“The financial aid that’s available will certainly play a major role, but there are other factors students are looking at in addition to money — like whether [the college is] a correct fit ... and whether it’s a place they can see themselves graduating from,” Roots said. “Financial aid is a huge piece of that equation but it’s not the only factor.”</p>

<p>Pretty nice article you found there. Boosts my confidence a bit but not too much being the OOS legacy that I am. I would really like to see what would happen if it didnt play out the way the dean states in the article and more oos students accept their admission…</p>

<p>I think your chances are still pretty good, because although you’re evaluated as an in-state student for admission, you’ll still be paying OOS tuition if you attend.</p>

<p>im still regretting not applying to uva especially after i saw this. i have a 2030/1320 on my sats and a 3.8 gpa. i thought i had no chance but now i feel like i wud have had some chance at least.</p>

<p>Well you can always transfer. Where do you think you’ll end up going?</p>

<p>I feel like transfering is so annoying though. I’m not sure so far I’v only gotten into schools that were more or less safeties, Wisconsin, Syracuse, Indiana, and Binghamton. I’m still waiting to hear from most of my schools. Where would you go if not UVA?</p>

<p>I’m in-state! Boo!</p>

<p>hahaha</p>

<p>legacies arent counted as instate, they just have around the same acceptance rate as instate students (around 50%). But i kinda wanna transfer if i dont get into UVA…Penn state Upark -> UVA lol it would prolly be hard to leave happy valley tho</p>

<p>This article gives me a semblance of hope for my chances here.</p>

<p>Thank you for giving me hope!</p>

<p>My daughter really wants to go to UVA–what are her chances now 1410 SAT #1 in class size 170, took all APS at school AP Scholar #1 singles on tennis team also 1st team S. Jersey, 1st Chair Oboe and All county, Captain Softball Team, Peer Mediator, School Executive President, President National Honor Society–more</p>

<p>What’s her score out of 2400? To stand a good chance applying OOS, you’d need at least 2000.</p>

<p>To get in OOS is very hard, even if you have great scores. Good luck with your daughter getting in undecided2009.</p>