good pre-med majors

<p>what are some good pre med majors besides biology, that get one a good job of 90k+ after undergrad, and doesnt relate to math, or physics...i want to open up my options, jsut incase i dont get into medical school. </p>

<p>what about polical science, and economics? could u guys give me a definitive profile on this..the courses that majors take in school, the undergrad salary, etc..etc....</p>

<p>thnkyou</p>

<p>try a business degree, then go on to investment banking. you would be making money in a faster period of time. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>as was discussed in an earlier thread, an economics major is a good way to go.</p>

<p>could u please list the courses we take in college for political science majors, economics, and business.............thnx i would appreciate it!</p>

<p>As should be painfully obvious, it varies from college to college.</p>

<p>ok...well if majoring in one of these courses...what is the average salary of an undergard right away?</p>

<p>google it</p>

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<p>Trying looking at the schools you're interested in for the course lists... there should be a lot of similar classes between schools. Also... 90k+ out of undergrad sounds pretty optimistic.</p>

<p>well investment banking, as above mentions, earns 60k for a start (analysts), while associates earn alot more..............how is finance as a major?</p>

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<p>Probably more like 100k to start, perhaps up to 130-140k. You forgot about the bonus. Banking is one of the industries where the bonus is one of the most important aspects of compensation. Many analysts actually make more money off the bonus than they do from their salary. And as you move up to the associate level and higher, the bonus becomes a larger and larger part of the compensation package. For example, the millionaire bankers make almost all of their money from the bonus. </p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_banking#USA%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_banking#USA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>But most people will not make anywhere near to the kind of money that bankers make. Take a gander at the 2005 salaries earned by Berkeley grads. Note that Berkeley is a top school that is located in an expensive area. Yet no major makes anywhere near to 90k in salary. Econ reports an average of 50k, PoliSci reports 38k. </p>

<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/CarDest/2005Majors.stm#salary%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://career.berkeley.edu/CarDest/2005Majors.stm#salary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>helpful links btway. But does EVERy investment banker earn around 130k? doesnt it depend on GRE scores and what undergrad institution he/she graduated from?....lets take an average person's GRE score, graduating from a 2nd tier school. What would his/hre salary be?(start and after years of experience)</p>

<p>... you don't take GRE's to get jobs.</p>

<p>oh ok...so is gpa the only deciding factor into getting a good job after undergrad??</p>

<p>gpa, i mean, as in academics..</p>

<p>GPA. Coursework. Interview skills. Puzzle-solving. Presentation. Networking. Alumni base. The broader state of the economy. How hard you try.</p>

<p>oh ok. what other jobs in banking besides investment banking promises a lucrative future?</p>

<p>Consulting - management, technology, strategic. Management. Venture capital/leveraged buyouts ("private equity"). Advertising.</p>

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helpful links btway. But does EVERy investment banker earn around 130k? doesnt it depend on GRE scores and what undergrad institution he/she graduated from?....lets take an average person's GRE score, graduating from a 2nd tier school. What would his/hre salary be?(start and after years of experience)

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<p>As said above, you don't take the GRE to get a job. GRE's are for academic graduate programs.</p>

<p>As far as depending on what undergrad institution you graduate from, your Ibanking salary obviously does depend on that in the sense that if you don't graduate from a top undergrad institution, you're highly unlikely to even get an Ibanking job. That's because the Ibanks only recruit at a select number of schools, almost always the top ones. It is difficult for even the students at these schools to get an Ibanking offer (because of the competition from the other students), but it is EXTREMELY difficult if you don't even go to a school at which the banks recruit. To get an offer, you first have to get the interview, and if the banks don't recruit at your school, it's hard to even get an interview. </p>

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<p>Absolutely not. GPA is just one factor. How well you interview is another factor. So is networking. In fact, arguably these are actually more important than the GPA itself. </p>

<p>For example, I know quite a few people who have stellar grades from the top schools - but who didn't get any offers from companies that they wanted to work for. They got a lot of interviews (because their grades were high enough to generate interest), but no actual offers. That's because they were not well prepared to demonstrate the social skills required to do well in the interview, In fact, I remember some of them ruefully telling me that they should have spent less time studying and more time working on their social skills. They would have gotten worse grades, but they probably would have gotten the job they wanted. In contrast, I know other people with, frankly, quite mediocre grades but who nevertheless got a slew of job good offers. They credit their interviewing, networking, and social skills for their success. </p>

<p>The truth is, companies don't really want simply'brilliant' people or high academic achievers. They may say they want that, but for the most part, they don't really want that. What they really want is somebody who is 'smart enough' but who can also work well with others and has the social skills to get things done. There is no value in knowing what the right answer is to a business problem if you don't have the social skills to be able to convince others that your answer is the right one.</p>

<p>so what other lucrative jobs are available for finance majors, that do not put so much emphasis on one's social skills but rather works ''behind the scenes?'' (Ofcourse, taking into consideration that the person graduated from an 1st tier university, if not an ivy league, or top 30, and is an introvert, personality-wise)</p>

<p>Well, the truth is whether you like it or not, if you're introverted and have poor social skills, you're probably not going to do well in ANY interview, and consequently may not get an offer from ANYWHERE. Like it or not, interview skills are part of the game. </p>

<p>However, backoffice financial research and analysis work does tend to involve less social skills. But it tends to require very strong quantitiative skills, and the firms who hire these people tend to be quant jocks from MIT, Caltech, Harvard, Stanford, etc. </p>

<p>I think you should disabuse yourself of getting a 90k job fresh out of college if you don't have good social skills, and even if you do get such a job, you may find yourself fired fairly quickly. If you don't have social/interview skills, you're just not going to do well in Ibanking.</p>