<p>I think someone already explicitely stated that you should not sign any paper saying you cheated. Something about them holding it over you forever since it's your signature.</p>
<p>My programing instructor has it laid out in the rubric (3 times, I counted) that you can NOT share any code with anyone else. You are encouraged to ask for help if you can't figure something out, but you can not share code.</p>
<p>Of course that's just my class. They may have a case against you if it was in the rubric, in which case you have no room to argue it, but you should definitely explain yourself in your apps. If not, fight it till they give up.</p>
<p>I have not read this entire thread, so someone may have suggested this, if so, see this as a second or a third of that idea</p>
<p>If your friend is a friend he will defend you. He should tell admin that you did not give him the program in order for him to copy it, that you were naive and thought he just wanted to see it, and that he did not indicate to you that he was using any portion of it and feels he should take the entire blame.</p>
<p>Then I would petition the admin to take this off your record. Tell them you will take the 0 for being a dolt but doing something dumb is not the same thing as cheating</p>
<p>I agree that this situation may be dire in regards to your future college plans... A lot of top colleges generally frown upon students who do not adhere to the rules of academic integrity...</p>
<p>Your friend needs to come clean. If he is your real friend, then he will do it. Although you shouldn't have gave him access to the paper in the first place, it is primarily his fault that "inspiration" translated to "plagerism." If your friend does not come clean, I would write a letter stating what exactly happened filled with honesty and respectful comments. They should tell that, because you are a great student and have never cheated before or been put on academic probation, you did not encourage this to happen.</p>
<p>I would do everything I could. You did not realize that an attempt to help a friend would lead to something so serious...</p>
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I see you were expressly forbidden to show your work to others. WAY big mistake on your part. Still I would not sign anything saying you cheated. I would admit you did something stupid and learn a big lesson from it (which may be what they are trying to teach you) but I would not sign a statement that said you cheated (unless you actually intended for your friend to use your ideas to better his own grade - then even if you were just trying to help him and did not reasonably expect him to copy it, you still broke the rules) Too bad you can't cop to a lesser plea of "dumb mistake"</p>
<p>this happened to me today!! except it was just with homework, and i think i just get a 0 on it..
but i totally understand why it is easy just to give someone stuff..b/c when i ask ppl. for help they give me their hw..and i take the time to learn it..but obviously others are not like that...</p>
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Consolation - Does it still count as cheating even though on the rubric sheet the teacher handed out, it stated that we are not to help each other or discuss our programs?
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<p>Okay, if the teacher handed out something that made it clear that helping or discussing was not allowed, then you <em>at best</em> helped someone else to break the rules. There is a limit which you can claim naivite.</p>
<p>I still think that the friend's punishment should be more severe than yours. I can get behind both of you being suspended, but I don't see why YOU should get a 0, since you did your own work and apparently did not plan for the other person to plagiarize it. (making the punishment fit the crime...on the other hand, accepting the 0 in exchange for having the incident taken off your record is a good result...) Your friend definitely should get a 0. Moreover, the friend should come clean in your defense as others have suggested.</p>
<p>What on earth were you thinking?</p>
<p>I agree with post #45: do not sign anything admitting "cheating," but make it very clear that you know you broke the rules, which were clearly given to you, that you made a dumb mistake, and that you will not do something so foolish again.</p>
<p>I can't imagine how it would affect you much as long as you...</p>
<p>1) Don't ask this particular teacher for a reccommendation next year
2) Or if your counselor doesn't know about it</p>
<p>However, if your counselor does know about it, I would just try explaining the situation to him/her. And if needed, I would try to send in a letter of explanation to colleges if your counselor chooses to put this on his/her rec next year.</p>
<p>You mentioned UVA in your original post. UVA has a REALLY strict Honor Code policy and it's famous for it. Again, I would ask your counselor whether or not he/she is going to mention this digression. And if he/she does choose to, then all I know is that UVA will not look kindly upon it.</p>
<p>Maybe I shouldn't be commenting here, but it's astounding and disappointing to find so many posts urging him to either blame it on his friend or deny all charges of cheating. Obviously, he cheated. Not everyone "cheated" on their tests, it's NOT something everyone goes through... What the university is going to think is that... he has a great 4.0 GPA, but how much of it came from cheating? </p>
<p>I think for someone who got a 4.0 GPA and 2020 on his SAT, there's no reason for the university to assume that he's naive. I doubt you will get rejected by your universities though... since unfortunately, cheating is so rampant that if universities reject all cheaters then their classrooms will be mostly empty.</p>
<p>At my daughter's college the academic integrity code clearly states that a person who gives answers to another is considered as guilty of cheating as the person who is given the answers. Both get the same penalty (usually an automatic F in the class with a notation on the transcript saying the F is for cheating, worse for any repeat events). I imagine it is the same at many colleges.</p>
<p>" think for someone who got a 4.0 GPA and 2020 on his SAT, there's no reason for the university to assume that he's naive. I doubt you will get rejected by your universities though... since unfortunately, cheating is so rampant that if universities reject all cheaters then their classrooms will be mostly empty."</p>
<p>Universities may not be able to reject all cheaters because many cheaters aren't caught. It would be easy, though, for universities to reject the relatively few students who do get caught and whose information about cheating is included on their transcript or in their counselor's or teachers' report.</p>
<p>The colleges that may ignore such report are likely to be colleges that normally would be a student's safety.</p>
<p>I agree with Consolation. Even though I think your friend could have done alot more for you in this situation exempting all blame and severe punishment from you.</p>
<p>your friend was dumb enough to let you get caught with him.. Sooo...
screw him use him as a buffer, lol. Say you didn't know anything about it lol. I mean you don't have to completely blame him but you should act like you didn't know what was going on. Your friend shouldn't get too mad at you because this is entirely his fault.</p>
<p>if asked about it during college app/interviews, try to explain it as best as you can and say you weren't at least the one who was copying off the answers.</p>
<p>Sharing code, especially on a midterm, is extremely, extremely stupid. Code isn't like an essay or project; as there are a finite number of ways you can approach tasks, similarities in code will be very, very to discern. At the very most, you should have helped your friend understand how to approach the task at hand.
Sending him your full code was pretty dumb, to say the least.</p>
<p>Great answers, folks! OP cheats by giving his friend the answers to an exam. (But golly gee willikers, who knew the friend would use the answers?) What to do? Your sage advice: lie, and tell your friend to lie. Because who would be interested in any kind of pesky personal integrity?</p>
<p>Why is your mom mad? In this situation, my mom would be all over the school. Parents have quite a bit a power in schools - and if she fights hard enough (forcefully, yet tactfully), he can make the school lessen the charge simply because it isn't your fault.</p>
<p>The original poster was given a midterm. It clearly said not to share or discuss solutions. Yet, despite that, the original poster showed his/her answer to a friend. Exactly how is that not his/her fault?</p>