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they were flaming becuase they knew alito is a coniving bastard</p>
<p>"strict intrepretation of the constitution" my ass
that philosophy applies to cases he favors, not ones he wants to overturn</p>
<p>hypocrite.
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<p>Wow--that was eloquent. Too bad there is no constitutional basis for Roe.</p>
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<p>I'm actually very conservative, and personally I don't agree with abortion. However it's been 30 years now since Roe v. Wade, and while I don't agree with it, I think there are far more important issues in American politics. While abortion is important, it should not be the basis of the American political system.
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<p>Abortion is the single greatest moral failing of the United States. Centuries from now, people will look back and marvel that such an advanced civilization could possibly allow such crimes to occur. It's extremely important.</p>
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Abortion is the single greatest moral failing of the United States. Centuries from now, people will look back and marvel that such an advanced civilization could possibly allow such crimes to occur. It's extremely important.
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<p>Oh yes of course, dealing with the "unborn" is much more important than coming up with long term energy strategies, strategies to deal with outsourcing and offshoring, education and the multitude of other issues that are affecting us now and in the future. If you don't deal with the IMPORTANT issues now those very "important" fetuses might not have an advanced civilization to be born into.</p>
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Oh yes of course, dealing with the "unborn" is much more important than coming up with long term energy strategies, strategies to deal with outsourcing and offshoring, education and the multitude of other issues that are affecting us now and in the future. If you don't deal with the IMPORTANT issues now those very "important" fetuses might not have an advanced civilization to be born into.
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<p>What was the most important issue in the United States in 1850?</p>
<p>I'd say slavery--you? </p>
<p>A moral failing as horrid as abortion grants the issue recognition as the most vile aspect of American culture. When a government cannot even protect the lives of its citizens, issues like energy and outsourcing are irrelevant.</p>
<p>I am absolutely not getting into an abortion debate with you. I believe your logic and thinking is flawed in that you seem care more for those not even born yet than the immediate repercussions for those of us already here.</p>
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I believe your logic and thinking is flawed in that you seem care more for those not even born yet than the immediate repercussions for those of us already here.
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<p>The right to life certainly supercedes personal convenience--no? What do you think?</p>
<p>The right to life doesn't concern me at all. I am quite removed from the whole abortion issue and desire to take no part in it.</p>
<p>I would also like to add that your argument of the government not protecting the lives of their citizens is questionable. </p>
<p>Definition of citizenship:
The country in which a person is born (and has not renounced or lost citizenship) or naturalized and to which that person owes allegiance and by which he or she is entitled to be protected.
<a href="http://www.immigrationonline.com/glossary/glossary.asp%5B/url%5D">www.immigrationonline.com/glossary/glossary.asp</a></p>
<p>Energy is not just some issue. We will soon be in the middle of a major energy crisis that will probably cause panic and resource wars. I wouldn't say that it's more important than abortion, but it is not irrelevant and should be a major concern.</p>
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The right to life doesn't concern me at all.
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<p>Then your opinions are irrelevant. The first priority of any government is to protect the lives of its citizens.</p>
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<p>Infants do not deserve legal protection?</p>
<p>The energy crisis is not going to happen for a while. Canada will soon become or already is the leading exporter of oil to the United States. They have oil sands, and do not have the need for all of the oil. Its better than Middle Eastern oil too, but it pollutes the enviornment more to refine it.</p>
<p>Production has been at a virtual standstill in the past few years despite demand increasing.<br>
<a href="http://omrpublic.iea.org/%5B/url%5D">http://omrpublic.iea.org/</a></p>
<p>Oil sands will unlikely be able to increase in production to offset declines elsewhere and keep up with demand. Oil sands require vast amounts of NG to process and NG has risen much in recent years. More production will only cause those prices to go even higher.</p>
<p>There's a pretty good chance that either Iran will have an embargo or the oil infrastructure will get attacked in a very important oil country (USA, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, etc). Very little chance that a major energy crisis won't happen for a while.</p>
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<p>We are not talking about infants here. Infants are after birth. Fetuses are before birth and by most not citizens. By almost all definitions citizenship is defined as place of birth, country of birth, nationality of birth, not place of conception. </p>
<p>Infants would be citizens. There is a difference. </p>
<p>And yes my opinions do matter.</p>
<p>I am pro-choice, very conservative, and anti-Roe.</p>
<p>Your job is to reconcile all three of those with each other and figure out how. Back tomorrow. :)</p>
<p>I am pro-choice, very conservative, and anti-Roe.</p>
<p>Your job is to reconcile all three of those with each other and figure out how. Back tomorrow. :)</p>
<p>IHateMath: Saying that slavery was important in 1850, therefore implying that slavery was the cause of the War for Southern Independence is laughable.</p>
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Your job is to reconcile all three of those with each other and figure out how. Back tomorrow.
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<p>Ok. You're Arlen Specter, but you think states should handle abortion issues. Am I right?</p>
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Wow--that was eloquent. Too bad there is no constitutional basis for Roe.
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<p>Really? How does that work now?</p>
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<p>I think you have a very dubious interpretation of "life." Maybe masturbation should be illegal?</p>
<p>Not even just the state thing. I am pro-choice(and conservative) yet if abortion is to be made illegal or legal, it is the LEGISLATURE to do it. Preferably the states, but a federal bill about abortion would not be objectionable to me. The Supreme Court had no business in Roe v. Wade.</p>