Let's talk about politics.

<p>I love politics and, honestly, I'm looking to argue. Feel free to post any view point in this threat, but be prepared to defend you position. You also need to be cautious. Don't be derogatory, just make arguments to support your view.</p>

<p>Beer is good. </p>

<p>/argument</p>

<p>Hey Kirstin I'm a very liberal individual and would be willing to debate you. I love politics too. I personally think that if McCain gets elected America will continue to go down the wrong path economically and will ruin our already damaged world standing.</p>

<p>Well Cervantes, I'd also love to debate you. Unfortunately, I'm the most liberal person at my school. In fact, when I took the quiz on political compass, I scored exactly where the Dali Lama is. However, I have one slightly right-of-center view, gun control. I think the best way to deal with guns is to provide education. More people are injured by gun because of negligence than actual intentional violence. If we improved the education required to purchase guns, I think we'd find fewer injuries.</p>

<p>iloveagoodbrew, I have to agree with you. I think beer is good, provided it is consumed in moderation. I'm afraid I'm not being particularly argumentative, but people seem to be posting arguments I agree with.</p>

<p>Beer doesn't really taste too good IMO. It's kind of like drinking carbonated pee.</p>

<p>Enjoy. ;)</p>

<p>I am highly conservative. I believe homosexuals should be hospitalized. I am strongly against abortion. I think people who have pre-marital sex should be killed. I believe that beer, and alcohol in general, is the juice of Satan. I believe that Barack Obama is Satan. I believe that rock music is satanic. I believe that evolution shouldn't be taught in schools. I believe that women shouldn't be allowed to vote or have jobs.</p>

<p>LOL. Well it'll be hard debating that while keeping a straight face.</p>

<p>Yeah, don't let my username mislead you. It's actually a ploy to lure unsuspecting teenagers into thinking I'm one of them. Once I've won them over, I turn them into devout Catholics and make them repent their sinful taste in music. After they've memorized the entire Gospel of John, just because I think John was a swell guy. Yeah. Watch out.</p>

<p>Most homosexuals in the small town I'm from will tell you they have tried everything to "fix" themselves. This should tell you it's not a choice and perhaps as a society we should embrace the differences and allow people to be whom ever they feel most comfortable being, rather than persecuting something that is not a choice.
Sometimes people make mistakes, and if I were the child of a woman who wanted an abortion, I'd prefer to be aborted rather than grow up in a house knowing I was an unwanted pregnancy. I woman goes through intense pain during childbirth. It should be a woman's choice weather or not she wants to endure that kind of pain.
Sex in a natural and instinctual urge that occasionally becomes too strong to stop, like screaming when scared or breathing. It's not fair to expect everyone to resist such a powerful urge. I also don't think people should be getting married just to have sex, which would inevitably happen.
Alcohol actually can be beneficial to one's health if used properly, but as with everything it can easily become too much. Even water is toxic if one drinks too much.
Barack Obama can not possibly be Satan because even if you believe in Satan, he is a biblical character from over 2000 years ago. And last I checked, most Christian religions do not believe in reincarnation.
Evolution is proven through science. Creationism, the most popular alternative, is a religious theory, and public schools are government institutions. Our government includes a separation from church and state.
Rock music is often a way people express their dislike of violence, what's Satanic about that?
Women are equally as intelligent as men, this has been well proven in the last century, and in our society, it is impossible to feed a family on a single income. Also, I bet the suicide rate in women would increase if you took away a key function in life that allows an escape from the house. As much as people complain about work, they would complain even more about not working.</p>

<p>Git off my lawn, commie.</p>

<p>I believe that Bush looks like a monkey and Kerry looks like a Munster (or a horse). I also believe that McCain has large jowls and that Obama has huge ears.</p>

<p>I also have no tolerance for people who break the law but don't want to face the punishment. Or people who make large mistakes in general. But that's something else.</p>

<p>I'm thought to be Left of the charts.
Here are ideas for you to attack:</p>

<p>I think that "belief" is unjustified because proof beyond doubt is likely beyond existence: the proceedings of the environment are not integrally communicable to the mind, and the logic of the mind is subject to the limitations of the evolutionary process, which is thought to not take things overboard in terms of redundant power (infinite logical capacity might be redundant). I'm aware this is circular, but I usually use proof by contradiction here.</p>

<p>I think that the statement "Ignorance of the Law is no excuse" is an instrument of (egregious) laziness.</p>

<p>I think that Nepolegality, my word for law that associates biological parents and their children, is inefficient and unfair. This is, by far, my strongest statement here in that I actually want to get this recognized by 2045, when "families" can dissolve into corporate, philanthropic or state-sponsored alternatives.</p>

<p>I think that state (a body with a monopoly on the right to use coercive force within a geographic district, and to determine laws to enforced as such) should be augmented by a system of contracts between entities, enforced by a megaconvention, where all parties accept some part of said megaconvention for their own good, under risk of having critically limited rights (human or otherwise basic in some way) if not party to at least some small part of said megaconvention.</p>

<p>If you want a conventional view, I think the ideas of Liberalism deny non-human animal rights by granting liberty to people, and I deny rights to entities, animal or not, that are unable to benefit or communicate with me (more or less; I have a more precise idea than that but I'll wait for the debate to be proposed). This way I make the politic centre not around "Humans" and their supposed divinity, but around ** me. **</p>

<p>rockermcr, I'm surprised for someone with such strong views that you have nothing to say to my responses other than to call me a commie. For your information I am a Marxist, and if you must acknowledge my communist tendencies I would like to be addressed as thus, just so we're clear. Marxism is different and more pure than the standard view of communism and is actually very peaceful.</p>

<p>I was only kidding, haha. I actually agree with most of what you said. (:</p>

<p>ok Kirstin...i have a question for you:</p>

<p>Marxism states that the 'proletariat' has been constantly exploited by those who 'buy' (own) their labor. However, capitalist counties like the United States have historically had higher living standards and high wages than say, Cuba. Wouldn't being exploited be a small price to pay for a better life?</p>

<p>If you think MCCain will make America go broke faster than Obama, you are in denial. </p>

<p>2008</a> Presidential Candidate Spending Analyses</p>

<p>"I am highly conservative. I believe homosexuals should be hospitalized. I am strongly against abortion. I think people who have pre-marital sex should be killed. I believe that beer, and alcohol in general, is the juice of Satan. I believe that Barack Obama is Satan. I believe that rock music is satanic. I believe that evolution shouldn't be taught in schools. I believe that women shouldn't be allowed to vote or have jobs."</p>

<p>Hiya, John McCain! :-/</p>

<p>I'm glad you agree, I think my views are reasonable.</p>

<p>In a true Communist society (which has never existed) the people are able to do the tasks that they enjoy the most with no consideration for the pay. The reason for this is that every person, regardless of the task they perform, receives no more nor less than what is needed for survival. Cuba is not a true Communist society they are still in the fascist stage, even though they call themselves communist. Sweden, a socialist state, is much closer to true communism than Cuba.</p>