<p>seems as Colleges at schools are more fair than high schools, would a 3.7 at Dartmouth worth more than a 3.7 at say oh... University of Pheonix(don't know if it exist) but... ya
b/c in high school, there is way too much inflation and deflation, are the college GPAs more used as the indicator?</p>
<p>well it would make sense that your college gpa carries more weight than your high school gpa, because during freshmen admissions your high school gpa is used to predict whether you will be successful at college or not (not that it is always a true reflect of your capabilities.)</p>
<p>are you a high school student?</p>
<p>also, there are colleges that practice grade deflation and inflation. Uchicago is notorious for grade deflation. But you also have to keep in mind that alot there is much more competition in college, especially if you attend a top hardcore academic based university, than high school.</p>
<p>I know many people who did excellent on the sat/acts and did great in high school, but their performance is mediocre in college; but then there are also many who do not perform well in highschool, but has managed to pull off an amazing grade in college.</p>
<p>the point: high school gpa and sat/acts scores aren't always definite or absolutely accurate indicators of a person's soon to be undergrad career.</p>
<p>yes, i am a senior, will graduate in june, our school's gpa is highly deflated! i am ranked 3rd or 4th in my grade with a GPA of about 85%.
i only earned an 85% in one of my math courses, yet i scored 800M and 780IIc (with 2 national math contest distinctions, soon will be 3)</p>
<p>Well i guess you just have to wait until college. It's different for everyone.</p>
<p>But if you're used to deflation, then you will have no problems at schools like chicago, or classes with a chicago graduate teaching it. (My bio professor who graduated from chicago practise grade deflation.)</p>
<p>what college are you going to?</p>
<p>I would say college gpas are often less fair. At least in high school you know that all ap courses are about the same. Also I would say the top 5% at any high school are close to the same, so the grade curves can map up somewhat. However, colleges dont map up at all in terms of the quality of students or in the amount of work they require, not to mention ccs. </p>
<p>Colleges grades are used as the real indicator, not because the comparision is any fairer, but because, presumily, you are doing harder work. The work is closer to what you would do when transferring.</p>
<p>_42, please don't just do a cluster statement and suggest all CCs are easy.</p>
<p>we have physics professors who practice grade deflation here at De Anza. His motto: Learning hurts.</p>
<p>Very diffcult engineering physics, NO CURVE. if everyone fail, everyone fail.</p>
<p>I've personally being through highschool and recieved 5 on 5 AP exams I've taken, I have to say that highschool grades are BULL. you get 30 or 40% grade from homework and openbook assignments, it's nothing like college.</p>
<p>also college is harder because at times there's no motivation to do any work.</p>
<p>Though I will not deny the claim that college is harder, one should not underestimate the difficulty of high school; though academic and advanced courses were fairly easy, I can assure you that Honors/GT courses were somewhat difficult.</p>
<p>Yeah, you really see how different all the professors are when it comes to their choice of which grading system they choose to use. It's a totally different ball game in college compared to high school.</p>
<p>"Yeah, you really see how different all the professors are when it comes to their choice of which grading system they choose to use. It's a totally different ball game in college compared to high school."</p>
<p>totally, we have professors that can make a cal-tech student fail, and a professor who would tell you answers of multiple choice midterm BEFORE hand(an anthropology professor) or give out guaranteed A (english). unfortunately, being a science major, i did not have the chance to take those classes.</p>
<p>You're right, nspeds, but all the Honors classes and AP classes I took couldn't compare to what I've experienced in college. Although they did probably prepare me much more than a standard class, they still don't match what I've gone through this year.</p>
<p>Katt, I completely agree.</p>
<p>Let's see...4 papers due within 1 day of each other and they're all at least 12 pages long. My AP and Honors classes in HS required papers, but not anywhere near the length I've had to do here. Guess if I want to go to Law School, I better get over it, eh?</p>
<p>Law School is different; unless you are writing for the Law Review (or some other legal journal), the only significant writing you will be performing is during exams.</p>
<p>Edit: I finished a 53 page paper last week, and I did not have to do any such work in my high school; however, I have encountered students in other high schools who have had to write 25 page papers for GT courses.</p>
<p>Edit: "I finished a 53 page paper last week, and I did not have to do any such work in my high school; however, I have encountered students in other high schools who have had to write 25 page papers for GT courses."</p>
<p>Wow, I'm impressed! That's a ton of work. Are you a freshman in college? And what's your major if you don't mind me asking?</p>
<p>Yes, I am a freshman and I am doing philosophy. Though I am embarrassed of the aforementioned paper - I wish I had put more sources - I have published two other papers, both in the 20s of pages, on my website.</p>
<p>As they say quantity is not correlative to quality; however, I put a lot of effort into my work.</p>
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<p>As they say quantity is not correlative to quality; however, I put a lot of effort into my work.
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<p>alittle off topic, but do you know any good books or published guides for writing a good philosophical paper?</p>
<p>You ask a good question, but I doubt you will like my answer; from my experience, there is no such guide to writing philosophy. </p>
<p>The best method for establishing a decent philosophical style is simply to read as many texts as possible and learn the author's techniques in those texts; after sufficient reading, you will begin to notice the logical transitions and syllogistic reasoning that are pervasive in analytic texts. Surprisingly enough, I never paid attention in any of my English courses in high school; I owe my current rhetorical and grammatical maturity to philosophy:)</p>
<p>25 page paper? on what? who reads that? paper, does that mean essay? i am confused...
do you have to write lots of paper if you are a science/biology major?</p>
<p>you do have to write a lot of paper if you are a science major.</p>