<p>Darkhope touches on a subject that really interests me -- what is the relationship between high school grades and college success? I can easily see how a talented kid can have mediocre high school grades, and I can also see how a hard-working kid of moderate mental ability can be a straight-A student. Kid A is working at half-capacity in high school, but has lots of overhead to improve in college, while Kid B peaked in high school. The trick is -- how can you tell the difference during college recruiting? The essay and ECs are obviously flawed (for a lot of reasons), and the interview is very limited in scope and rarely used. It all seems kind of random to me.</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, all you utes who assume that someone with high SATs and a low-ish GPA is a slacker need to get over yourselves. Unless you know someone personally, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. While I was typing this I thought of four alternative suggestions that do not include "slacker." Give me a few minutes and I'll come up with another batch.</p>
<p>agree with the sense that people who just show up and do decent will be the most capable. when you got diff eqs and orgo chem, i'm guessing sheer effort ain't gonna help too much there.....you ahve to be capable. Now of course, being an uber genuis and doing well is probably the best way to go ;).</p>
<p>well for example i ended up getting a B in AP US, yet getting a Five on the AP Exam. The reason was my teacher was a stickler for basically doing homework, and I wasn't a fan. Regardless, I do consider myself to be a slacker of sorts.</p>
<p>"And don't be sorry: I'm responsible for my actions and my bad grades are my mistake."</p>
<p>"its more of one of those things where I just dont apply myself."</p>
<p>This is why I called him a slacker. Maybe the term was crass and too strong, but he very clearly explains why he has a 3.1 GPA. Why should he apply himself in college if he didn't apply himself to get into college? I wasn't insulting him, either, I was asking a genuine question.</p>
<p>On the issue to adcom evaluations...what do you guys think about Oxford's adm process...would it be beneficial for someone who has strong tests and not so strong (I'm not talking low, but just not 4.0 UW) GPA, or would it be the other way around?</p>
<p>It's a pretty good question regarding the amount of work a lazy student will endure during college, definately at an top tier school. I guess the sell to a college if you are a lazy student is that under that college's environment, you will be allowed to flourish.</p>
<p>dude, you have a shot of getting into many top tier schools- ivies included. what matters is how you show your interest and willingness to work in your essays, recommendations, and interviews. the grades will hurt you, but don't think of them as an automatic roadblock.</p>
<p>GPA is not that bad at all. He/She's ranked in top 25%. Yes, it's not very good, but it's still competitive.</p>
<p>what are your grades in each individual class, grouped by the year in which you took them? i'm pretty sure a 3.1 isnt telling the whole story. plus, adcoms look at the full transcript.</p>
<p>George Washington - in
Georgetown-good chance
Yale-a chance
Vassar--good chance
Haverford--good chance
UConn-in
NYU-in
Columbia--a chance
Swarthmore-a chance
Amherst-a chance
Darthmouth-a chance</p>
<p>I think you have a pretty good shot.</p>
<p>Can you provide us with:</p>
<p>a.) How many sittings of the SAT Reasoning test you did (some schools care), and each set of scores if you took them more than once
b.) Which classes you achieved each respective AP exam grade in and what the scholastic grade was for the course
c.) Which SAT II's you took</p>
<p>Heres the details:</p>
<p>1) First try- I considered re-taking but I don't think it's worth it
2) Here are my classes and Corresponding Grades in the School Grade</p>
<p>AP UCONN Chem- 5 (A in Class due to AP Exam)
AP US History- 5 (C+ in Class-Horrid teacher, hated me)
AP Latin-Vergil- 4 (A in Class)
AP Calculus BC- 5 (B+ in Class)
AP US History and Government- 5 (B in Class)
AP UCONN Physics- 5 (A)
AP English Lit- 5 (B-)</p>
<p>And for the SATII:</p>
<p>US History
Latin
Biology (Molecular)
Chemistry
Physics</p>
<p>I think a lot of those are reaches because of the GPA thing, but hopefully your AP scores will make up for that part.</p>
<p>the ivies are reaches, ur gpa is slaughtering u, a 3.1 is almost unheard of for ivies. anyway to bring it up?</p>
<p>At this point I doubt there would be anyone unless he can get uber overrides from half his teachers.</p>
<p>ok then reject..sry....who knows, ur SAT scores might balance it out</p>
<p>I'd say start preparing more safeties. The UW is really hurting.</p>
<p>NYU might accept u, ace their interview, ivies look unlikely.</p>
<p>I was gonna respond but noted in a previous post (since you only have 10 it was easy) you stated your UW gpa is 3.5 (Sept 06 post), not 3.1. And your SAT was 2380. OK it's only 10 points different but which is correct (esp the gpa?).</p>