<p>I know the Ivvies value participation but was just wondering if my daughter should consider Brown or not.</p>
<p>She loved visiting Vassar and after hearing it being described as a not so safety school for Brown applicants and it’s selectivity not so under Brown’s I thought I’d ask whether she is a canidate as an applicant or not.</p>
<p>Strong 4 yrs at college prep school. Aps (5) and honors classes. Gpa right now as a rising senior approx. 97( her school does not rank…but she thinks she is 5-10% of class)</p>
<p>SAT2 US HISTORY 780 will take SAT2 LIT in fall( expect750+) she is a fine writer.</p>
<p>Good recs and essays expected.</p>
<p>But not many EC’s : approx 100+ hrs community work and tutoring.</p>
<p>Art and Photography a passion ( 2yrs art school w/portfolio)and writing. But no awards or contests entered…very self conscious of her work does not like to share…artists!(sigh)</p>
<p>Has held a p/t job for 18 mos.</p>
<p>Some of the kids from her school have been accepted to Brown and she has heard great things and was interested. I thought this was too far of a reach for her since she really has not been active in school as much as the other kids. But before we begin researching Brown as a reach school for her…is this even realistic?</p>
<p>Am I correct to think that Ivies want active leader EC’s as well as good grades?</p>
<p>Or are her good grades and her artistic interests enough to qualify her for the pool?</p>
<p>Any info on Brown or other Ivies that may accept a smart articulate girl who just has not involved herself enough in active school committees or leadership positions to date, but has passion for art and learning?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>Does she have SATI or ACT scores yet?</p>
<p>Her grades look fine for Brown. If ECs are the only thing holding you back, I'd say go for it. She must do something in her spare time, right? The trick is to make it sound good. ECs don't have to be through the school.</p>
<p>SatI V750 M490 CR 690 (new one)</p>
<p>Yeah....she bombed out on the Math. She is retaking it in Oct., we are looking for either Math tutor or SAT prep. help. She had a SAt prep book the first time( but I suspect she did not use it)</p>
<p>Now she sees that SAT is not like any other tests..........you can not rely on what you know but instead there is a stradegy to it. We tried to tell her that, but she had to find out for herself.</p>
<p>I'm sure with study this time the scores will be much higher.</p>
<p>Any suggestions for a tutor or a self prep book or a course that can be taken before Oct.? What about the ACT. I have heard some kids do better with this? What do you think, take the ACT or retake new SAT, or do both,would that be overkill?</p>
<p>Your daughter sounds a lot like me - when I applied to colleges I thought that what they really wanted was the usual laundry list of sports, school clubs, and official volunteer work, which I did not have. Instead I had a genuine passion for my own interests, but did not even mention them in any of the applications since I didn't think anyone would be interested. I was shocked during the interview for one top school when the interviewer asked what I did for fun and seemed impressed by my own private, personal activities (charting changes in imagery on historic gravestones, scientific illustration, and making art jewelry, etc.), and realized I had made a mistake in what I included.</p>
<p>Genuine interest seems much more difficult to come by than the usual assortment of awards and school club leadership positions, so it is quite possible that your daughter is actually at an advantage. Be sure to include slides of her best work in the application, but don't try to pad the resume with fake extracurricular/community service - it's soooo easy to see through that. And have her apply everywhere that interests her; it's impossible to know what will appeal to any given admissions committee, and with her strong genuine dedication to the arts it's likely she is someone's ideal candidate.</p>
<p>Try to get the math score in the 600+ range to be a competitive applicant at Vassar and Brown.</p>