<p>Brown 25/75 percentile is ACT 29/34. Good luck on Saturday! Do you project a score based on studying/practice tests?</p>
Guidance counselor said I have no chance at top schools. Native American female artist w/ a 3.4 GPA?
<p>Brown is a high reach but I don’t see why not apply.
Honestly, I think your odds may be better of meeting guys at Barnard, Bryn Mawr, Scripps, Wellesley, and Smith/MHC, than at Skidmore, simply because it’s a bit more isolated (although Saratoga Springs is a nice town). However, I think the atmosphere would be very good for a creative kid.
Since you don’t know what you want, apply widely - apply to Syracuse and Skidmore and Brown and Scripps. Give yourself some choices. :)</p>
<p>Have you looked at Oberlin? Your test scores are a bit low for them, but they do take students in your GPA range and they have a strong arts focus and your portfolio would likely carry weight there. </p>
<p>I don’t think it’s always fair to encourage a kid based on the mid-50%. Brown, eg, (one of few schools to show admissions detail,) admitted 5.4% of kids with 26-28 ACT. Those likely include kids with top hs grades, actual accomplishments and impact in their communities, an app that presents just what the school knows works- and then perhaps a testing blip. (And, athletes.) These kids will have taken rigorous courses and done well in their cores. Same will apply to all the suggestions about Dartmouth and some other highly competitive colleges. Kids need to see this not just as where they might, maybe, if lightning strikes, get in. Afaik, OP never revealed his/her rigor or what more she has accomplished- not even in art. Sorry.</p>
<p>adding: I’m not clear whether OP needs finaid or wants a U or an LAC. But why not Rutgers, which is strong in both the arts and psych? Or some of the smaller NJ schools?</p>
<p>@lookingforward, OP apparently had been getting 31 on practice tests, and will be taking the SAT tomorrow. She claims to go to a “top public school in america” type of high school that she says does not have grade inflation- so I am taking that as an indication of rigor. The Dartmouth suggestion (the ones from me, at least) was with regards to an Ivy League that favors (in its charter) admitting Native Americans; but not as a match at all.</p>
<p>I have faith that she will rock the 6 December SAT!! (and, yes, we all know that will buy you a cup of coffee only if you have $2 to go with it!) :)</p>
<p>But you have to start with what exists today. 27/3.4. And we can’t assume she chose rigorous courses just because she says her school is competitive. She hasn’t mentioned AP classes or scores (did I miss that?) Lots of people noted Dart, not just you, including on another thread. We do want her to settle at a happy place, on that we all agree. </p>
<p>From what I gather, letters from relatives/friends of the family alums have no impact unless the letter writer was your teacher, mentor, employer etc. You have a lot going for you. Best wishes!</p>
<p>@milkweed They are alumni, but you’re right.</p>
<p>Thanks @ItsJustSchool :)</p>
<p>@artisticnative Best of luck tomorrow! Believe in yourself.</p>
<p>Thanks @gearmom! My father is insisting I’d be better at a uni than a LAC, and I agree with that. The only thing is that it will probably be UMass. I think and hope I’ll like it. If I want to transfer sophomore year to a uni like Cornell and get a good GPA and SAT, I wonder how hard it will be with my HS GPA…</p>
<p>@artisticnative You could love UMass with the five colleges and it has great food. Just letting you know as a fun fact… Depending on what tribe you’re from, you would get free tuition and mandatory fees paid for at UMaine flagship or free tuition, fees and room and board at UMaine-Farmington, a public LAC,. Think that any tribe can get the free benefits if you live in Maine for a year. I’m sure you’ll do really well wherever you go.</p>
<p>@artisticnative Your HS GPA should not count against you after first year or two. Transfer could be tough but keep the dream for grad school. </p>
<p>Some my family members are Penobscot, one of the qualifying tribes for free UM (no surprise lol) just thought I’d mention the free option if you wanted to save for grad school.</p>
<p>Transferring isn’t a good option if you need a lot of financial aid. And your best shot for Cornell is as a freshman - while they admit many transfers, almost all of them are admitted to the College of Agriculture.</p>
<p>Have you considered Brandeis, Syracuse, SUNY-Binghamton, University of New Hampshire, University of Vermont, University of Connecticut, SUNY-Buffalo, Clarkson, SUNY-Albany?</p>
<p>HS GPA many times DOES count after only one year of college, usually not after two years of college. And that’s not necessarily true for highly competitive colleges. Check the Common Data Set for each school to find out (section D). Cornell is among the schools that require HS info. <a href=“https://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000554.pdf”>https://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000554.pdf</a> </p>
<p>@Erin’s Dad @gearmom I meant to say junior year: I would apply for the fall of 2017. My guidance counselor is insisting that if I do very well, I could transfer to Cornell. She also says that if I am actively involved in the school and do lots of research, I should be able to apply to any top med school. If she is incorrect in saying that, I will look at more prestigious schools again.</p>
<p>@artisticnative - I haven’t read every comment here, but I can’t believe that you would have a realistic chance at Cornell, and I wouldn’t advise just going to any old school with the thought that you will transfer to Cornell. I think you will be stuck at that school and not get to go to Cornell. The onus is definitely on you to find a good school, but you keep mentioning all these very top tier schools, and you just don’t have the stats to compete with those that get accepted. Once in a while someone has a very compelling story and gets accepted to an Ivy or one of the top LACs with stats about where yours are or even worse, but those examples are very few, and just because you are a Native American I don’t think gets the job done here. There are a TON of colleges out there, and you can do very well if you apply yourself once there, but I think you need to lower the bar a bit…find a GOOD college that gives you a more reasonable shot at being admitted. Just trying to help you avoid disappointment as that is directly tied to expectations. Good luck.</p>
<p>@stepay Are you saying UMass is “just any old school?” I don’t have the stats yet, but after two years in college, HS stats significantly decrease in importance.</p>
<p>In terms of prestige, the potential transferring, and grad/med school, would I be better off at Skidmore?</p>