<p>As some of us may know, most of the Haas applicants were disqualified because they did not complete the breadth REQUIREMENT, which is reflected in the inaccurate transfer %. This year the breadth has been discarded during the admission process, so those applicants who would have been disqualified will now be eligible. Do you think there will be much more competition? The answer seems obvious, but lets discuss.</p>
<p>Yes. Just take the 2010 transfer numbers. 1542 applied. Only 376 were deemed eligible. Out of those 376 applicants, 105 (28%) students were offered admission.</p>
<p>Assuming the numbers will not deviate substantially, the number of eligible students will certainly increase. By what percentage is anyone’s guess but I can be sure it will not 100% due to some applicants not fulfilling prerequisites, the foreign language requirement, of the 60 unit requirement. </p>
<p>I would estimate the admittance percentage might drop to 10-13%. Maybe even possibly to high single digit percentages. This is just a guess and not based on any empirical evidence. I reason if 1500 students apply, and ~300 are deemed ineligible due to not fulfilling the aforementioned requirements and Haas accepts ~100-120 students, then the percentage is somewhere around 10%. Furthermore, this all depends on how many students they decide to admit.</p>
<p>The thing is, a lot of people apply to UCLA or other top schools to transfer such as Upenn etc. and they don’t complete required or highly suggested courses. Nonetheless, they are not considered “not eligible” when looking at the transfer rate. You would not believe the number of people that will apply to a certain major at UCLA/UCB/any school and that didn’t fulfill all the requirements… Haas is actually so highly regarded that they don’t want to seem too elitist (by showing off a legit 7-8% admit rate) and they try to convince people to apply. It’s actually nice of them to tell the WHOLE story since they could say the absolute truth by mentioning a 7% transfer rate. I don’t think so many schools tell you that the admit rate is X% and then explain that there were actually a lot of people not eligible.</p>
<p>If you go on the website of schools that are not highly regarded, they’ll try to convince you that they are legit but if you go on the website of Harvard Business School, they’ll will tell you that while it’s difficult, “everyone has a chance”.</p>
<p>Next year, it’s going to be EXTREMELY difficult for Haas (single digit admit rate). I honestly feel bad for transfer students that want to go to Berkeley. If you absolutely want to go to Cal, then choose Economics.</p>
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I don’t necessarily agree with this statement because Haas explicitly states a certain number of students were ineligible because the applicants failed to complete the admission requirements.
The information is openly available to anyone to who visits their site. </p>
<p>Furthermore, the reason schools such as UPenn Wharton and Harvard have low admittance percentages is due to their high retention and yield rates. (Harvard doesn’t have an undergraduate business school. HBS is graduate level).</p>
<p>@Mitch</p>
<p>A lot of schools explicitely say that you should/must take X or Y courses but a lot of students apply while they didn’t take those courses. This tendency is not specific to Haas or any school for that matter. For example, do you think that all the people that apply to UCLA as a business econ major have all their pre-reqs either completed or planned for the spring semester? Nope. Another school such as MIT requires or highly suggests transfer applicants to take some courses. Nonetheless, I don’t see two different transfer rates, one for those who completed or planned those courses, and one for those who didn’t. .</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I don’t see UCLA or any other school mentioning two different admit rate, one for the eligible applicants, and one for the non-eligible applicants.</p>
<p>Haas has decided to communicate more info than most schools and it makes it easier for applicants because they can understand a little bit better the admission process.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don’t mean to be rude, I’m a little bit tired but I don’t understand your point. Yes, they explicitely say everything on their website (about the uneligibility etc.) and so what? That exactly proves my point: they say more than other schools, they are more transparent about the admission stats.</p>
<p>Of course, HBS is only for grad school. I’ve never said that it offered an undergrad business program.</p>
<p>A last note, you said that “I don’t necessarily agree with this statement because Haas explicitly states a certain number of students were ineligible because the applicants failed to complete the admission requirements.”</p>
<p>Is Haas the only school that has admission requirements? No.</p>
<p>But it’s the only school that makes a distinction in their admit rate between the applicant that fulfilled the requirements and those who didn’t.</p>
<p>Most people on CC are very serious about the admission process and can’t imagine that students just apply without looking carefully at certain requirements, but you would be surprised at the number of students that apply to bad/good/great universities and that don’t qualify for admission.</p>
<p>I agree with what you’re saying on the requirements but I think I misunderstood your original argument.</p>
<p>Either way, I definitely agree with you on how this year will be the most difficult in terms of admission to Haas.</p>
<p>The admission focus will still be on academic achievement in the required major prerequisites. The removal of breadth requirement simply prevents some students from being penalized for missing courses. Star performers will still be admitted, the middle-tier students will feel the squeeze, and the bottom-tier students will likely be totally left out in the cold.</p>