@Limbokid tell your mom there is a thread on CC right now that argues with that article on college health center care. At Harvard, our personal experience with the health center was excellent. I am sure this is true at all the colleges you folks have been admitted to.
@compmom Thanks. Trying to get through to her. Don’t want a gap year!
Are you guys sending the newly released AP scores of senior year?
@waitlist888 - No. H already concluded that all of us still on the WL are academically qualified, so not inundating them with AP material. I think that may find it annoying. Most of us receive 4’s and 5’s , so I don’t think its value added.
No me. Saw kids with 12+ AP 5s getting thrown out already. I got less 5s but still on wl. Really doubt they are picking wl kids based on scores at this point. My ex-admissions source says at this point they prob just pick names out of a hat without any ranking to fill a spot from a gap kid. Each hat is labeled differently like URM full-ride, international full-ride, full-pay legacy, full-pay minority, full-pay athlete. athlete full-ride etc. Not really a scientific process. Never was. Good luck everyone!
How do you guys think they choose who to reject in the first wave. Seems like H let go of a good chunk of their waitlist during late May. Was it based on the original application. I doubt they had evaluated everyone on the waitlist by then.
hello, I just called H-office. She said that they would notify everyone (on WL) by either a phone call, email or portal updates. She said there is no set timeline…
@technoblade thank you! I have been wanting to call, but couldn’t get up the nerve. On our behalf, thanks for picking up the phone and doing it and reporting back! So appreciated 
Also, the fact that admissions said there will be some applicants notified via phone is a good sign that there will be some WL movement.
@Technoblade Thanks. Is she the liaison of your area/state? Or just general line?
@LimboKid H doesn’t disclose their regional AO like some other schools, as far as I know. It was just a general line.
@Technoblade Thanks.
@LimboKid Harvard admissions is not going to label anyone full pay or full ride. Financial aid is separate from admissions.
More on the health center. Harvard has a full staff of primary care doctors as well as specialists in the health center. This is a very different situation from what is described in the article. The doctors are top notch.
@compmom Thanks on the health center info. I’m researching it on the Ivy I committed to also and hopefully will calm my mom down. Don’t want gap year!
On the labeling, I understand that’s what they say and what most people like yourself believe in. But my opinion is different after going through the law suit documents and some research report published by Duke (?) last year. I also did independent research on the announcements H made over the past ten years. Every year, there’s a consistent half a point to 1.5% increase in specific groups of admits including FGLI and URM requiring full FA. To think they don’t, at least on the marginal acceptance (meaning the last few kids including us on the wl), look at these “labels” is unrealistic. I’m also confident that the readers (junior staff) at admissions were told about their mighty “need-blind” halo too. But when it comes to voting, the very senior people at the committee always have more info than the juniors. Otherwise why would athletes, dean’s list, legacy and children of professors (ADLC) get such an amazing statistically unrealistic consistency of advantage over kids like me?
Stanford talked a lot about need-blind too. But few believe them now because too many ex-admissions people left to tell the world what they saw. H is the same - the junior staff, usually readers fighting for justice, do operate on that fairness. But the Dean level people holding the decisive votes have far more “private info and agenda” than the rest. Otherwise, how can they balance (or come close to balancing) an approved and announced budget that’s decided in June for acceptances to be made in December and the coming March? That’s just common sense operational budgeting 101. It took a full-blown law suit to actually see how they operated and how a completely “need-blind” approach created those miraculously great statistical optics in admissions results that perfectly mirrored the weighting of college ranking agencies.
Again, this is purely my personal opinion and observation driven by the law suit data, comments from an insider ex-admission person, my counselor and a few older friends (ADLC) who read their admissions docs already. Not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just my views.
@LimboKid I specifically referred to labelling regarding full pay or full ride. I did not refer to other types of labels. Please read my post carefully.
Two schools in the greater Boston area - Wellesley and Tufts - both had waitlist movement this week. While they’re not “Harvard caliber”, it’s still great to see so much waitlist movement going on at other schools. Looks like we’ll have to wait until after July 24 to hear anything from H though.
Thanks @waitlistedsenior Friends from high school texted me that some kid are getting calls from Cornell, Tufts, NYU, Princeton and Yale this week. I agree that H maybe after 7/24 because the other schools have earlier gap app deadlines, I think. Good luck guys!
@compmom Respectfully ma’am, same thing. They already have a budget of $x for FA. Imagine them accepting more % of wl kids in need of FA is out of the budget discussion. Hence, they mark us FA or no FA. Maybe they have AI doing that for them? From our very small sample here at this CC forum, we can see about a little more than half are no FA.
So my prediction is whatever kid gaps out from their category of URM, FGLI, ADLC, international (FA vs no FA), a wl person will be pulled out of a hat that’s labeled accordingly and receive that “Congrats!” call. I also predict that no one taken off from the wl will have the option for a gap year.
Brown also had some wait list movement today. Brown seems to be taking almost all full-pay students. However from my experience and seeing posts on CC, some Ivy+ schools are still taking kids off the wait list who need a lot of FA and seem to still be “need-blind” even for the wait list. It’ll be interesting to see what H does. Also if there are deferrals in upper years it can affect their FA budget as well since those a lot students won’t be needing FA for the 2020-2021 school year.
I hope they are wrong. “Foreign students still in danger of losing visas, despite settlement”
Read on for the solution proposed, which should be done “asap.”
“The administration needs to follow the rulemaking requirements of the APA and promulgate the March 13 guidelines as a federal regulation, which is what it should have done in the first place.”