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<p>Just do it, scrap the race column from applications. Then see how the holistic admissions plays out. That should be cool to watch.</p>
<p>@rhapsody17 The UCs apparently don’t look at race, so if you are curious what it’d be like without race being a factor, you can just look at the UCs.</p>
<p>You have to understand the following for the UCs:</p>
<p>1.) A great deal of the in-state population is Asian and as a public school priority goes to in-state applicants.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.census.gov/2010census/popmap/ipmtext.php?fl=06”>http://www.census.gov/2010census/popmap/ipmtext.php?fl=06</a></p>
<p>2.) If you take a look at the admission data, the majority of people applying to the UCs are either Latino or Asian, thus it makes sense that the majority of people accepted will be Asian or Latino, which it is. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2014/fall-2014-applications-table3.1.pdf”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2014/fall-2014-applications-table3.1.pdf</a>
<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2014/fall-2014-admissions-table3.pdf”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2014/fall-2014-admissions-table3.pdf</a></p>
<p>Many URMs at my school with 33s-36s/4.0s have be rejected from Ivys just like everyone else.</p>
<p>I think what many people are forgetting and I believe what @Pennylane2011 is trying to get at here, is that these colleges have holistic admissions taking everything into account. They look at your ECs, what you did over the summer, what kind of school you came from, income, essays, interest, interviews, personality, talent, intended major. Grades, test scores, and race are all just a part of this admission process and are no means a way determining whether one will be admitted or otherwise. With all the top schools having admission rates at or near single digits, rejecting people of all races, it’s ridiculous thinking that someone got in because of race or someone got rejected for that “black” kid.</p>
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<p>Then stop asking for race on college applications.</p>
<p>" I have always felt back for the white male that comes from a low socioeconomic background. " I agree with you that socioeconomic status should be a larger consideration than race but I find it interesting that so many people are unaware that white males are in fact beneficiaries of affirmative action in admissions at many schools. It is the white females who are at a disadvantage at many schools (except tech schools where the situation is reversed). </p>
<p>Taking race out of the application- which is what you are advocating for- has been shown to change the demographics at state colleges where grades and scores are a main component of admission. </p>
<p>What could be erroneous is the assumption that this would have the same results at colleges that practice holistic admissions. What I have been trying to state is that holistic admissions considers several qualifiers. With holistic admissions, some attention is focused on the applicant’s individual story and circumstances. Also a college like UNC is likely to admit students from all areas of NC. In this case, that applicant from rural NC with an SAT score of 1900 might just very well get in instead of an OOS applicant with a 2300. You might think that rural applicant isn’t qualified, but that decision isn’t up to anyone but admissions. You can take any reference to asking about race on an application, but that will not change the applicant’s background, circumstances, and life story, recommendations, and interests - individual factors with unpredictable admissions results. </p>
<p>At any rate, the decision is out of our hands and into the courts. It will be what it is. </p>
<p>[Is</a> Harvard Unfair to Asian-Americans?](<a href=“Opinion | Is Harvard Unfair to Asian-Americans? - The New York Times”>Opinion | Is Harvard Unfair to Asian-Americans? - The New York Times)</p>