<p>How does Harvard outrank "Stanford, BYU, Pitt, Northwestern, Oregon, Alabama, Penn State" if it plays Division Iaa and they all play Division Ia. And isnt the ivy league basically the only league that doesnt have athletic scholarships and therefore "non-salaried players"? </p>
<p>And I would hardly consider those margins of victory over Princeton, Yale, Cornell and Dartmouth to indicate "domination"</p>
<p>See the combined rankings by USA Today</p>
<p>As to the margin over Yale (football + with cross admits) see:</p>
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<p>Regarding that football ranking you mentioned: Harvard didn't play any opponent that was ranked better than 140-150. Even if Harvard wins all its games by 30 points, how can anyone justify a ranking better than 120-130?</p>
<p>You're a numbers guy...how does that work?</p>
<p>...embarassing yourself with your ignorance.</p>
<p>"Do you perchance have another alias for posting positive comments about other school(s) on other threads?"</p>
<p>No ... and I find it extremely strange (but consistent with your other behaviors) that you asked this type of question. Believe it or not, I have much more interesting things to do than Google-searching "Harvard" and making random posts as a booster for high school kids! But if you must do this to support your ego, then so be it.</p>
<p>"But man, you also gotta lot of anti-Harvard, anti-Summers hostility! Simmer down, old chap!"</p>
<p>I like Harvard just fine, and have donated regularly (but may stop because of my distaste for Larry Summers). But I honestly don't care for the pitiful, prestige-seeking, "I'm better than you because the yield at my college was 80%" types who are unfortunately very common at Harvard. And based on your numerous posts, you seem to be a model of this annoying phenotype. Simmer down, little one! And spend a few minutes Google-searching to learn about college football and those Sagarin rankings before make yourself look even dumber than you are!</p>
<p>If being a recruited athlete confers an admission advantage to the Ivy League colleges (does anyone deny this?) and if going to an Ivy League school confers lifelong advantages to a college graduate (would Byerly deny this?), then couldn't we say that the Ivy League players, too, are "salaried" in the indirect sense that they enjoy a life advantage in return for their playing ability? </p>
<p>I don't gainsay that the Ivy League recruiting and scholarship rules mean that an Ivy League player has to be a good bit stronger academically than a player at most other Divison I schools. And some are good enough in playing ability to go on to the professional leagues. But precisely because I acclaim those players for being smart in school and skilled in their sports I doubt that they choose where to go to college in disregard of the benefits received from one college or another.</p>
<p>Harvard's senior quarterback Fitzpatrick is at the NFL invitation only Combine in Indiana. I don't thnk he is a 6th grade flag football player!!!! How many undefeated were there in 2004 season???? Harvard 10-0</p>
<p>Harvard didn't play any opponent that was ranked better than 140-150. Even if Harvard wins all its games by 30 points, how can anyone justify a ranking better than 120-130?</p>
<p>It is certainly odd that a person as important as you loftily imply that you are nevertheless finds time is his busy day to post on the Harvard page exclusively for the purpose of slamming the institution and its president for the benefit of student applicants.</p>
<p>Apparently, you are an "Angry Man On A Mission" of the ultra PC stripe, for whom the attacks on Harvard, its President, and those who would defend both are fulfilling in some way. </p>
<p>You have made 11 posts under this alias - all of them dripping with invective directed at the poster, at Harvard, at Summers or all three!</p>
<p>May you find peace.</p>
<p>Fitzpatrick is obviously an elite quarterback. But he is the exception that proves the rule.</p>
<p>From the Atlanta Constitution:</p>
<p>"Jeff Witt, QB, Parkview: Witt (6-0, 200) led the Panthers to the Class AAAAA finals, passing for 1,700 yards and 18 TDs, and rushing for seven scores. Was named first-team all-Gwinnett. A 4.0 student, Witt will attend Harvard and play football. "Before I went up [to Harvard]," Witt said recently, "I had an idea maybe they would be kind of nerdy. But they were just absolutely normal in every way." Conclusion: Makes the right decisions at the right times."</p>
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<p>And another amusing Atlanta Constitution quote from young Mr. Witt:</p>
<p>"Jeff Witt quarterbacked Parkview to the Class AAAAA title game, scored 1450 on his SAT and carries a 4.0 grade point average.</p>
<p>But one seemingly simple question leaves him fumbling for the right words: "Where are you going to college?"</p>
<p>The not-so-simple answer: Harvard.</p>
<p>"When you tell somebody that, you kind of sound like you're bragging," Witt said. "The guys up there that I met, they call it the 'H-bomb.' "</p>
<p>With Fitzpatrick, the 3-year QB graduating, and the bench thin, a potential star - called "the next J.P. Losman" when he was recruited from California - transfers in from Tulane.</p>
<p>Good genes as you can see. Sister, mother and father all jocks.</p>
<p>When Harvard picks up an athelete from Tulane, is that the same as a Big Ten school getting a kid from community college...just on a different scale?</p>
<p>Except, of course, he doesn't get paid, and must look to the psychic rewards.</p>
<p>One of the few recruiting advantages of Div1AA is that you don't have to sit out a year, so thar prima donnas who don't want to wait their turn (usually, but not always, QBs) often walk off to the Ivies in a huff.</p>
<p>I think about every Ivy has had a transfer QB on the squad in recent years.</p>
<p>Princeton will have a transfer QB from Purdue on the roster this year, Bill Foran, even though their official policy allegedly bars transfers.</p>
<p>Penn's defensive Player of the Year was Kory Gedin, a transfer from the University of North Carolina who filled in at the linebacker position and did nothing but rank second on the team in tackles with 61 and lead the Red and Blue in solo stops with 41.</p>
<p>At Cornell, the top receiver was Brian Romney, who led the team in receptions (60) and receiving yards (766) in his first season at Cornell. Romney, a junior college transfer who played at Snow College, led the junior college ranks in receptions per game as a freshman and was named second-team All-America.</p>
<p>Sophomore tailback Clifton Dawson (Scarborough, Ont.), who set Harvard's single-season rushing and scoring records as part of the Crimson's 10-0 season, was named a first team All-America selection by the Walter Camp Foundation. He is a transfer from Northwestern.</p>
<p>Sophomore tailback Clifton Dawson (Scarborough, Ont.), who set Harvard's single-season rushing and scoring records as part of the Crimson's 10-0 season, was named a first team All-America selection by the Walter Camp Foundation. He is a transfer from Northwestern.</p>
<p>Yale takes several transfers every year, some of whom have made a great impact on the football team. Recently, Rashad Bartholomew '01 and safety Than Merrill '01 helped propel the Eli to contender status for a couple of years.</p>
<p>Bartholomew decided to transfer from Air Force "because he didn't feel his career was headed in the right direction. The Falcons rotate several running backs, so for Bartholomew to start, he would likely have had to switch over to defensive back." </p>
<p>Similarly to Bartholomew, Merrill transferred to Yale "because he wasn't happy with his situation in Stanford. He was slated to be a regular only in nickel packages, not in normal defensive situations which feature only four defensive backs. "He considered both Yale and Harvard, but fortunately for the Bulldogs, he opted for New Haven." [YDN]</p>
<p>Penn, of course, usually "reloads" with transfers annually.
The quarterback position is often filled by a transfer, most notably Northwestern transfer Gavin Hoffman, who ripped through the Quaker record books, setting single-season records for passing with 2,322 yards, completions (200) and attempts (336), and led the Quakers to an Ivy Title.</p>
<p>Dartmouth had two transfer running backs on its last Ivy League champion team in 1996, it hasn't had one contribute in a major way since, although the school "opened the doors to a couple of transfers from Division I-A schools in the past two years as part of its effort to bring football back."</p>
<p>Cornell's quarterback in 2004 was D.J. Busch, a transfer from Colorado State.</p>
<p>Scouting service ranks Ryan Fitzpatrick 9th among college QBs.</p>
<p>"The perception of me right now is I'm a smart quarterback. The Harvard tag helps that out a lot, but I need to make sure to continue to prove that on the field."</p>
<p>Perception may have met reality as Fitzpatrick was rumored to be the only one of the 332 players at the NFL Combine to complete the Wonderlic intelligence test. Actually, he completed and double-checked the 50-question, 12-minutes-allowed exam, with three minutes remaining on the clock."</p>