<p>I know there are several sources that give the 25th and 75th percentile of SAT scores of students admitted to Harvard. What I'm looking for is something that will tell me the percentage of applicants who were admitted into Harvard (or any Ivy League college for that matter) for each SAT score. E.g., there were n students who applied to Harvard with an SAT score of xyz, of whom m% were admitted.</p>
<p>What I’m looking for is something exactly like the third table here, for other Ivies:</p>
<p>[Princeton</a> University | Admission Statistics](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/admission_statistics/]Princeton”>http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/admission_statistics/)</p>
<p>Even opinions will be appreciated if you don’t have any statistics.</p>
<p>i don’t know if that exists for harvard, but it would be really cool- i wish more schools had tables like that…</p>
<p>i’m guessing that harvard’s table would be somewhat similar. obviously if you have a great SAT score it gives you a much better chance, but for harvard you need things beyond good test scores, mainly steller ECs. they don’t seem like a school that would go strictly by the numbers, but i’m guessing they wouldn’t be that much different from princeton.</p>
<p>sorry i don’t know anything specific; i hope someone else can help you out with that :)</p>
<p>colconf- I am unaware of anything that detailed for Harvard…jeez, they only recently joined the world of transparency (very late relative to their peers) by publishing their CDS. </p>
<p>Here are a few links for high end schools that provide similar acceptance stats by SAT breakdown. Note that most break things down to each component of SAT (Cr, M, & Wr), and don’t use the total as Princeton has done. Also, each set of stats is structured differently, so its hard to compare schools. Interestingly, high scorers in SAT Wr seem to have a bit of an edge.</p>
<p>Amherst: <a href=“https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/181593/original/Secondary%20School%20Report%2063rd.pdf[/url]”>https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/181593/original/Secondary%20School%20Report%2063rd.pdf</a>
Brown: [Brown</a> Admission: Facts & Figures](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)
Cornell: <a href=“http://www.dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000001.pdf[/url]”>http://www.dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000001.pdf</a>
Dartmouth: [Testing</a> Statistics](<a href=“http://www.dartmouth.edu/admissions/facts/test-stats.html]Testing”>http://www.dartmouth.edu/admissions/facts/test-stats.html)
MIT: [MIT</a> Admissions: Admissions Statistics](<a href=“http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml]MIT”>http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml)
Stanford: [Applicant</a> Profile : Stanford University](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/basics/selection/profile.html]Applicant”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/basics/selection/profile.html)</p>
<p>Cornell does admissions by college, the most applicable stats will be those for the college there you are actually applying to.
Here is the most actually relevant data:</p>
<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf</a>
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf</a>
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf</a></p>
<p>The interesting thing about the Princeton tables is that they confirm something I’ve long suspected: while the SAT scores of the middle 50% would suggest that you’d need a 2370 to be at the 75th percentile, in actuality only 22.4% of the accepted students last year had an SAT score above 2300. True, there’s a difference between accepted students and enrolled class, but I don’t think a school of Princeton’s stature is losing a disproportionate amount of “average” admits (those less likely to be admitted by Princeton’s peer institutions, in other words), at least not on a scale that would result in a dramatic distortion of the statistical profile of its enrolled class (which is the only thing that could bring the 75th-percentile score up by ~100 points).</p>
<p>What I’m trying to say is that a lot of people who do well on one section of the SAT may do worse on another, which makes the actual 75th-percentile SAT scores of these institutions much lower than 2370. I’d say Princeton’s is probably somewhere around 2290.</p>
<p>I wish these schools would release the middle 50% composite SAT scores as well.</p>
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<p>The middle 50% breakdowns don’t suggest that. They suggest that the 75th percentile had a 790 on math or on critical reading or on writing. Not all three.</p>
<p>Yes, that is what I said.</p>
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<p>You said they would suggest that, but that the 22.4% >2300 stat disproves that. What I’m saying is the middle 50% per section breakdowns never suggested that.</p>
<p>Yes. That. Is what. I said.</p>
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<p>Now can you stop trying to debunk my arguments by quoting and rephrasing them?</p>
<p>Maybe I should have been even more unnecessarily verbose and said, “…while the SAT scores of the middle 50% would suggest–only if you’re not very familiar with statistics and decide to go by the sum of the individual 75th-percentile <em>section</em> scores instead of the 75th-percentile <em>composite</em> score…” but I guess I banked on people reading my post in its entirety and realizing that I am in fact talking about a common mistake, not making it.</p>
<p><a href=“http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf[/url]”>http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf</a></p>
<p>page 9 </p>
<p>(note that this article was published in 2004)</p>
<p>hume15, interesting page.</p>
<p>P.S. Your link is the penultimate revision of this paper. There is a Dec. 2005 version here: [SSRN-A</a> Revealed Preference Ranking of U.S. Colleges and Universities by Christopher Avery, Mark Glickman, Caroline Hoxby, Andrew Metrick](<a href=“http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=601105#PaperDownload]SSRN-A”>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=601105#PaperDownload)</p>
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<p>Try this --in case you’d like to repeat the same argument:</p>
<p>“In actuality only 22.4% of the accepted students last year had an SAT score above 2300” is a totally erroneous interpretation of the numbers shared by Princeton. What the numbers say (and you did not) is that from the students who submitted scores above 2300, only 22.4% were selected for admission.</p>
<p>A small hint was that the total of the admitted percentages did not add to 100%. Fwiw, for the Class of 2014 reported the following numbers for enrolled students with SAT between 700 and 800</p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading 74.00%
SAT Math 79.00%
SAT Writing 79.00%</p>
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I knew I’d seen an updated one before. Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>@xiggi,</p>
<p>Wow, I didn’t notice this! Okay, so my calculations are kind of pointless as I didn’t look at the labels too carefully. Thanks for pointing it out.</p>