Harvard Vs. Wharton

<p>I know that at Wharton, you can apply to take the mba/ba program in your junior year, so that you get a ba and mba in 5 years instead of 4 years and then another 2 years. Does Harvard have anything like this? What about MIT? If I get accepted to Harvard as an undergraduate, how hard would it be to get into the mba program right after the undergraduate program without any full time work experience in between if I have part time work experience from college and started my own business in high school?</p>

<p>Harvard has no undergrad biz school. However I am guessing there is no guaranteed admit for their business school as it is ranked at the top of its class in the country and competition is most likely highly competitive even inside Harvard.</p>

<p>The 4 schools I am most interested in are Harvard, Wharton, MIT, and Chicago. I prefer Wharton and MIT Sloan over Harvard and Chicago, because they have undergraduate business schools and Wharton even has a ba/mba combined program. Harvard Business school and Chicago Booth are only graduate schools. Does MIT Sloan have a combined program like Wharton to get an mba and ba in 5 years? Also, how hard is it to get into the Wharton ba/mba combined program?</p>

<p>A combined BA/MBA program can be great, but most colleges would not have it. Most graduate business schools require 3+ years (in many cases 5+) of experience working in the real world. Going straight from undergrad to an MBA is not what b-schools are about. You would not be adding to the class by doing this.</p>

<p>I would not recommend doing a submatriculation to MBA because getting an MBA w/out work experience is generally looked down upon by employers. </p>

<p>HOWEVER, you should look into Wharton’s dual degree program such as M&T where you graduate with a BS from Wharton and a BS in some form of engineering. This is considered much more prestigious. </p>

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<p>No respectable MBA program will accept you without full time work experience (usually 2-4 years)</p>

<p>If you look at the entering student profile for Harvard Business School MBAs you will see a listing of industries that the students came from. This list adds up to 100% from which you can infer that the accept <1% of their class (if any) straight out of undergrad without having worked for some time.</p>

<p>I have been looking at the mba/ba combined 5 year programs at Wharton, Cornell Johnson, and Cargegie Mellon Tepper. These programs are hard to get into, but they do not expect full time work experience right? I would rather get an mba and ba in 5 years then spend 3 or 4 years getting a ba and then getting 3 years of work experience and then spending another 1 or 2 for an mba.</p>

<p>Yes, these programs are difficult to get into and do not expect work experience. The question, and I do not know the answer, is whether the graduates of these programs are as competitive with the conventional MBA students from their schools in gaining the top paying jobs. I would ask each of these schools for information on hiring rates and starting salaries for grads of the BA/MBA program vs. grads of the conventional MBA.</p>

<p>I have heard that the starting rates are lower for graduates from these programs, however, the rates are obviously higher than those who graduate with a bachelors while getting work experience, so I would rather go to school for 5 years and then start work with an in between salary than do 4 years of school-3 years of work with lower salary-mba-work with higher salary, because by the time I graduate with an mba from the 2nd option, I would have already been working with an mba for 4 years in the 1st option and my salary would be at least as high as people who get an mba after years of work experience.</p>

<p>Wow, toolshed.</p>

<p>so yeah wharton has the sub-matriculation program…its pretty tough to get into. I think from my class only 10-15 people did it (out of a class of ~550-600). I would say from a hiring perspective it does help you land pretty great jobs but at lower pay than your traditional MBA counterparts. The two guys I know that did the program graduated and both got associate jobs at large private equity shops (TPG and KKR) without doing banking…so they did effectively save themselves the 2 years of **** work that most have to go through at the analyst level.</p>

<p>HBS has a program that is fairly new called the 2+2…here you can apply from any university during your junior year. If admitted you go and work for two years after graduation and then you start at HBS.</p>