<p>I think the yield this year will exceed that of last year. Almost all of the early admits will enroll because Harvard is their first choice (otherwise why apply early?). I hope I’m wrong though.</p>
<p>It is not true that so called Z-list candidates are legacies. I know two students who were not legacies but were in the Z-list, took a year off and then joined Harvard the following year.</p>
<p>Not all Z-listers are legacies, but it is well known that the majority are. And the majority of Harvard College applicants are not. (Read the article from The Crimson that EnoughAlready linked to in Post #32.)</p>
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<p>I know a Z-lister from last year, and he was a legacy. Stupiddorkyidiot (I have read enough of your posts to know you are none of those), watching WL in our region leads me to believe that legacies are sometimes given a courtesy spot, but sometimes it’s a real acknowledgment that “we’d have taken you if we had more room.” It’s hard because this still gives you no info and you’re still waiting. </p>
<p>I have said this on the Harvard Board before: there is no place on the Harvard supplement to list any legacy relationships or Harvard professor dads and moms, etc. (unlike, say, Columbia’s supplement, which specifically asks for those relationships). The only thing Harvard knows officially is information from the common app, which has a space that includes parents’ education. That said, I do think the AdCom know a lot anyway, and the regional chairs and interviewers often fill them in too. They also would know about siblings; like Sikorsky, I believe siblings do make a difference. We call it “sib tug” in our region, and we had a non-legacy sibling admitted this year (like his brother, he was enormously well qualified).</p>
<p>Crossing my fingers for the waitlisters on this thread and offering this advice: love the schools where you’ve been accepted.</p>
<p>So how should someone on the WL proceed at this point? Our S has been told by the counselors to only have one or two additional letters sent while other people have told us to send as many as possible. And should they be sent to the Regional Rep or to the Dean of Admissions? Can’t believe all the conflicting info S is getting and while people are very well meaning, he is already incredibly stressed out and disappointed. We acknowledge that the chances of getting offered admission off the wait list is almost none, but want to help our child as much as possible. How would one know if they are on the “Z” list?</p>
<p>@beezer:
This sounds like a sure way to sink any chances you son has. What terrible advice!</p>
<p>^^^
Bombardment is not a good way to go; the AdCom already has enough stuff to read. I’d say send one or two extra letters at the most.</p>
<p>About the z-list…there is no z-list. What I mean by this is that someone who is z-listed doesn’t get mail that says, “Congratulations, you are on the z-list.” They will be told that, if they wait a year to enroll (and, I think, not attend another university in between), they will have a spot for the class of 2018. If you ask the AdCom about the z-list, I don’t think they will talk about it.</p>
<p>So anyone actually think Harvard is going to take people off their waitlist this year?</p>
<p>^ I guess that’s the real question at hand. Have so many students ever been admitted early? What’s the yield going to be?</p>
<p>I spent a week to follow the Harvard WL 2016 forum from beginning to the end after my son waitlisted this year. It was like a classical drama. What I can tell is there was happy end for several kids, but the others were not going to lose - they all went to good schools. Is @YBULLDOG right when he/she said that WL is hopeless? If there will be an open spot, you all guys will have a chance. I do not think there are seats reserved for someone in WL. So, if you truly love Harvard, do not quit the game.</p>
<p>Ya can’t win the lottery if ya don’t buy a ticket. </p>
<p>But also don’t expect to win. </p>
<p>Good luck. Look at the thread from last year-- lots of good advice on how to navigate this process and keep your head on straight. It is like having a bifurcated brain–one part HAS to fall madly in love with the college where you were accepted and would otherwise go and part of you has to fight like the dickens to try to get off the WL. It isn’t easy. But for the fortunate few (I will not say lucky because I do not think it is a crap shoot…) it is so worth it.</p>
<p>hey i’ve also been waitlisted at Harvard but unlike many people, i don’t really have an option to enroll for fall while waiting on the list</p>
<p>i was rejected by princeton, but waitlisted by: Harvard, UPenn, Dartmouth, Yale, and Amherst College.
does anyone have any suggestions as to what i should do with so many WLs? i did apply to some other colleges that are less renown but was either waitlisted or rejected in those, having applied for fin. aid as an int’l student.</p>
<p>any tips or info would be appreciated!</p>
<p>@tigermag: FYI - I visited all the schools that you listed, and everywhere they state they are financial blind to consider applications. For me it is too good to be true. I also attended joint College Options information evening by Harvard, Upenn, and 3 others. Financial Aid offer by Harvard is the best: if your family income less than 60,000 USD per year, you can have fun in Harvard for free for 4 years; if the income up to 120k, you pay up to 10%; people pay full, if their income is greater than 180-250K (I forgot the exact number). Another good thing to hear from Harvard is it treats all students the same; there is no difference for Harvard if you are US or international student (all eligible for financial aid). Now, let see the facts - how many families have income more than 250k in the US - GOOGLE says that number is 2.32% in 2011; and, what the percentage of Harvard students pay full - the lady from Harvard at the infor-night said that the number was about 45%. Yes, it is difficult to get in the Ivys not only because they are so good, but also b/c their Financial Aid offer is much better than the others. You may increase your chance by UNCHECK the Financial Aid box. Hope you will be lucky to get in one of the colleges that waitlisted you. All of them are great.</p>
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Well yes and no. Yes in that Intl students get fin aid generously as US applicants. NO in that very few schools offer Fin Aid like Harvard to Intl students so they get swamped by applications and the admit rate for intl students is much worse than the 6% of everyone else</p>
<p>What is the typical yield of EA students last year? And that of RD seperately? Does anyone know - would give a better indication of this year’s number? I think yield will be quite high unfortunately…</p>
<p>What is the typical yield of EA students last year? And that of RD seperately? Does anyone know - would give a better indication of this year’s number? I think yield will be quite high in comparison to other years unfortunately…EA tends to have v v high yield as its typically first choice and more people got a place this time round early.</p>
<p>Sorry accidentally submitted first one ^^^ :(</p>
<p>Harvard does not publish the yield of EA and RD – they do a combined yield, which last year was 81%. See: [Harvard</a> Yield for Class of 2016 Soars to 81% | News | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/5/10/admissions-yield-2016-action/]Harvard”>Harvard Yield for Class of 2016 Soars to 81% | News | The Harvard Crimson)</p>
<p>As a side note: Harvard admitted more students in the EA and RD rounds this year than they did last year.</p>
<p>@gibby so they accepted more students in both rounds? Or just EA? I know EA more were definitely accepted - I suspect that might increase the yield even from last year? What do you think?</p>
<p>Sorry, Harvard accepted more people in the early round, and less in the RD round. Overall total is 3 less, but yield will probably be higher due to increased number of EA admits.</p>
<p>2012: EA:772, RD:1260, TOTAL: 2032 ==>> 81% Yield
2013: EA:895, RD:1134, TOTAL: 2029 ==>> ?? % Yield</p>