Harvard/Yale Law GPA/LSATs

<p>haha, coming from NYC, the bad language is part of the culture of sport games. And while you are right CD, that it is a bad for the kids around, Ive grown soo accustomed to it that not hearing it would make the full game expierience incomplete. </p>

<p>LS question : What other prestigious scholarships are out there, besides fulbright, marshall, rhodes, and truman. Im looking for something that doesnt require me to study in England or any other country for that matter..</p>

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No, I'm talking about Rey "I Own the Police" (witness statement at scene) Maualuga in beating a kid in the head outside a party last month.

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<p>You reference to rape and posession of ecstasy specifically alluded to the charges Eric Wright faced. He is off the team and gone from the school. Rey Maualuga- he was accused of hitting another man at a halloween party, and charges were dropped. He was demoted to the scout team the following practice and was made to enroll in a 12 month anger management program. Also take a look at that situation more closely. Mauluga's father was(still is) in critical condition and fighting cancer. He was flying back and forth from LA and home to see him. His life is football. Considering how talented he is and the situation he is in with his father dying, is cutting him from the team the smartest thing to do? </p>

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Your idea of sportsmanship is crap. But then I think few associated with your school these days have much of an idea of what the word means.

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College offenses go for it on 4th down in blowouts. It's not just my idea of sportsmanship, it's what all college coaches do in games with big leads. Again, kicking a field goal and tacking on extra points would be bad sportsmanship.... as a coach you let the opponents defense have another chance to stop you instead of being classless and running up the score with another field goal.</p>

<p>if i'm not convincing you, email a sports reporter or talk to coach at a football program. they'll tell you that's the proper thing to do- go for 4th instead of the fg. </p>

<p>and i don't go to usc.</p>

<p>"Nevertheless, I do agree with the basic point that HLS and YLS (and I would also add Stanford Law) are quite difficult to get into. I don't have information about Illinois undergrads specifically, but I do have information about Berkeley undergrads. In 2004, Berkeley undergrads who successfully got into YLS had an average LSAT of 173 and an average GPA of 4.03 (if you are wondering how you get a GPA >4, for LSDAS purposes, an A+ is worth 4.33 points). Those who got into Stanford Law had an LSAT of 171 and a GPA of 4.12. Those who got into HLS had an LST of 171 and a GPA of 3.98.</p>

<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm#school"&gt;http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm#school&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/p>

<p>Sakky, are you ****ing serious? You need above a 4.0 to get into YLS and Stanford from Berkeley? And a near-perfect GPA for HLS?</p>

<p>That's literally impossible unless you study 24 hours a day.</p>

<p>How feasible is it for a Berkeley graduate to attend Columbia/NYU/Cornell Law schools?</p>

<p>What do you guys reckon I need for my GPA and LSAT to get into those?</p>

<p>Edit: And don't just say "look at the website."</p>

<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Going off of the information from the career center, we can see that you need about (or at least)</p>

<p>NYU - 170 and 3.75
Columbia - same
Cornell - Slightly lower GPA, maybe a 3.7 or so. </p>

<p>Basically, without some great something, you need at least a 3.6 and a 165 to think about it.</p>

<p>Ok so I checked the median GPAs for Columbia and Harvard.</p>

<p>For Columbia the median for all accepted applicants in 2004 was 3.65. For Harvard it was 3.8</p>

<p>Why do Berkeley students have to do SO much better than the median to be accepted? Do these schools hold prejudices against Berkeley?</p>

<p>Is this true?</p>

<p>Keep in mind, though, that you only need a 4.0+ GPA to get into HYS if you are coming from Berkeley. The GPAs change depending on the school. I'm guessing that grade inflation is high at Berkeley?</p>

<p>no...no...</p>

<p>There is relatively little grade inflation at Berkeley. </p>

<p>I got into Stanford about a week ago from a school with grade inflation and did not have a 4.0</p>

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I'm guessing that grade inflation is high at Berkeley?

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<p>I think there is a slight grade deflation, but I am unsure.</p>

<p>The median for Georgetown to Harvard Law School is 3.82.</p>

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I got into Stanford about a week ago from a school with grade inflation and did not have a 4.0

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<p>Congratulations:)</p>

<p>Berkeley gives A+s. The maximum gpa is 4.33. It is possible to get a gpa above 4.0 with several non-A grades.</p>

<p>IMO, it's misleading to compare the median gpa of students admitted to YHS Law from a college which has an A+ in its grading range and a college at which an A is the best possible grade.</p>

<p>John Galt,</p>

<p>If you do not mind my asking, from which school were you admitted?</p>

<p>Jonri, how is it misleading? Also, even though the maximum GPA is a 4.33, realistically, the maximum GPA is not so high as that. Even for the best student, some profs just don't give out A+s. </p>

<p>Berkeley profs can give A+s, as can UCLA profs, and maybe the whole UC system. How often do you think this happens? Do you think this happens in every class? Don't some other colleges have this policy? How do their averages compare to Berkeley's and UCLA's?</p>

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Keep in mind, though, that you only need a 4.0+ GPA to get into HYS if you are coming from Berkeley. The GPAs change depending on the school. I'm guessing that grade inflation is high at Berkeley?"</p>

<p>Karla: </p>

<p>ONLY? Honestly, most professors do not give out A+, and it's very hard to get an A+ in a course. Basically you need to receive a 100% in the course WITHOUT the curve to get an A+.</p>

<p>It's quite hard to get above a 4.0 and there is basically no grade inflation at Berkeley.</p>

<p>The Ivy League unis grade inflate, not us. :)</p>

<p>So the median for Georgetown to Harvard was 3.82?</p>

<p>Are you implying I should transfer universities?</p>

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Are you implying I should transfer universities?

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<p>No, I was establishing a comparison.</p>

<p>A+s are not offered here, though.</p>

<p>I tried to retrieve Rice's data on law school admissions, since they offer A+s, but I cannot locate them.</p>

<p>Jonri, in all honesty, I wish what you said were true, because then getting A+'s would seem like a breeze. Suffice it to say, it's false, and frankly they're screwing us over because getting an A+ is equivalent to me eating my arm.</p>

<p>I think I won't even apply to those universities. :)</p>

<p>Nspeds, no maybe you are right.</p>

<p>If I transfer to Georgetown with my current Berkeley GPA, I'd actually have a chance of going to Harvard Law. </p>

<p>Now, the question is, does Harvard take into account of the transfer when looking at my GPA?</p>

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Nspeds, no maybe you are right.

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<p>Right about what? I was not suggesting that you transfer, and you should especially not do so because you want to get into a specific law school.</p>

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<p>Er, but it'd significantly increase my chances. I don't think my parents would allow me to transfer, but I'm saying, it'd increase my chances.</p>

<p>Would you not transfer if you were in my position?</p>