Has anybody on this board heard of St.Cloud State(in MN)?

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<p>I’ve been accepted to SCSU :slight_smile: I might visit sometime this month during their admitted students weekend …I still haven’t heard back from the other schools I’ve applied to…yet.but ill definitely kept y’all posted! I hope I can get into Mnsu -mankato…
I might have to narrow it down to mankato, scsu & adelphi…which is my first choice :slight_smile: however, scsu seems to be an academically solid school though …I think?Im also still unsure about scsu 's racism issue. .I know a lot of Africans that go there and seem to like it so…
I would *really * appreciate it if I could get some input from y’all.
.thanks :)</p>

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<p>Congrats, eastafrobeauty.</p>

<p>To be honest, the schools that you are talking about are not high on the radar screen of most people on CC. That is not to say that they won’t provide you a fine education - but these are schools that tend to attract mostly in-state students in Minnesota who are looking for a real bargain. CC skews to the east and west coasts, and to private schools as well as the most elite public schools (such as a Michigan or Berkeley). I think you are better off relying on the people whom you know at each of these schools to provide you with insight into any racism issues, versus thinking that you will find much from CC. Again, good luck to you.</p>

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<p>EAB, you have gotten a lot of feedback on this thread already (I know I posted earlier, and so have many others). Seems like you are choosing not to heed it (as much of it has not been positive), or fishing for other feedback that is more in line with what you would like to hear. I am not sure why your counselor would say that discrimination is not an issue, given the number of writeups SCSU has had in the local papers for those types of issues in the past 5 years.</p>

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<p>intparent, you could provide a link or at least something to google for a link. I tried, and this is what I came up with - surely this isn’t what you are worried about - </p>

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<p>Really, if EAB knows people that happily go there, then I’d encourage her. Good luck!</p>

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<p>I have a colleague who did her undergrad work at SCSU and raves about the place. She will be completing her Ph.D. this summer and feels it was SCSU that launched her on her very successful current path. I asked her about the racial issues and she said there is a real history of active and vocal student groups, and that issues at SCSU are brought into the open and discussed at a level not found at many other campuses she has attended (three in all), or visited for any time. She feels the racial issues are no greater at SCSU, it is just that they are confronted head on.</p>

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<p>Here are some links:</p>

<p>[St</a>. Cloud Muslims fearful and angry after racist incidents | Minnesota Public Radio News](<a href=“http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/01/27/meeting-on-anti-islamic-images/]St”>St. Cloud Muslims fearful and angry after racist incidents | MPR News) </p>

<p>[Sexism</a> and racism reported at St. Cloud State University | Academe | Find Articles at BNET](<a href=“http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3860/is_200203/ai_n9084659/]Sexism”>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3860/is_200203/ai_n9084659/) </p>

<p>[Racist</a> symbol found on St. Cloud State University campus | StarTribune.com](<a href=“http://www.startribune.com/local/27764344.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU]Racist”>http://www.startribune.com/local/27764344.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU) </p>

<p>[St</a>. Cloud seeks clues in racial graffiti cases | StarTribune.com](<a href=“http://www.startribune.com/local/12474576.html]St”>http://www.startribune.com/local/12474576.html)</p>

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<p>I was in MN last week and read this. Kind of sad!</p>

<p>[St</a>. Cloud State ends Homecoming tradition | StarTribune.com](<a href=“http://www.startribune.com/local/117402098.html]St”>http://www.startribune.com/local/117402098.html)</p>

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<p>thanks, pizzagirl!</p>

<p>but my question is more like…would that school be good enough to transfer out of? since i cant go to a CC it’s the next best option…</p>

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<p>I think you should be talking to someone at that school. This is a school that is pretty much unknown on CC and everyone who seems to know anything about it has already posted on it.</p>

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<p>St. Cloud state is pretty much an open enrollment school. I would suggest going to Normandale or North Hennepin CC. I pulled a 3.5 at Normandale and got in UMD and U of MN TC for Biochem so you could certainly get into a better school. I took 17 and 16 credit semesters of all 2000 level classes so that may be why as well…</p>

<p>Granted, I am also a veteran. That certainly helped with my transfer status into the Universities.</p>

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<p>My niece has two friends at St. Cloud State. They both like going there. About 75% of students who apply are admitted; it is not a highly selective school. Given that you are looking for an inexpensive college with dorm space, it seems like a reasonable choice. (Neither Normandale nor North Hennepin CC offers on campus housing as far as I know.) I think that if you go there for a year and focus on your grades, it is quite likely you could get a GPA high enough to allow you to transfer to the U of M or another one of the schools that you prefer for the following year.</p>

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<p>Longer version of previous message - I hit the “post” button too soon - sorry!</p>

<p>My niece has two friends at St. Cloud State. They both like going there. About 75% of students who apply are admitted; it is not a highly selective school. Given that you are looking for an inexpensive college with dorm space, it seems like a reasonable choice. (Neither Normandale nor North Hennepin CC offers on campus housing as far as I know.) I think that if you go there for a year and focus on your grades, it is quite likely you could get a GPA high enough to allow you to transfer to the U of M or another one of the schools that you prefer for the following year. (The same holds true for going to community college; if you sent to community college for a year and and focused on your grades, it it is quite likely you could get a GPA high enough to allow you to transfer to the U of M or another one of the schools that you prefer for the following year.) It sounds like you are afraid that St. Cloud State is such a low tier school that even if you went there and got straight A’s, you wouldn’t be able to transfer elsewhere. Don’t worry about that.</p>

<p>St. Cloud State is the second largest school in Minnesota. If you ask around, friends and neighbors will be able to tell you about their experiences there. You’re going to find less than 10% of the students there are African or African American; that is not uncommon at a four-year college, especially in the Upper Midwest. (A Twin Cities CC like North Hennepin CC would have a higher proportion of Black students.) </p>

<p>It sounds like there have been bumps in sensitivity at SCSU in recent years but the administration is trying. </p>

<p>I think you will be okay there. You might even love it. Many students across the U.S. are very happy at third tier state universities; they just don’t post on College Confidential.</p>

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<p>Ohh I just noticed that you posted on here! :b</p>

<p>@MidwestMom2kids_ : Thank you so much for that detailed response. I really appreciate it! I know it really sucks that I can’t find a lot of good info about MN state -mankato or SCSU here on CC :confused: I’ve used the search button like, 100000 times :)</p>

<p>I think I might be able to make it next saturday to SCSU for their admitted students preview day. I’m not going to get my hopes too high…but I’m just really grateful for at least getting accepted somewhere–it’s definitely a start. They’ve really been trying to reach out to me sending me a ton of mail/brochures/ acceptance letters/bumper stickers…and in one of their brochures I read that they send many of their science grads to top schools like JHU and Caltech…and others to harvard and umich law schools…</p>

<p>And yes, honestly I would have much, much rather attended my local CCs-- Normandale or MCTC. But in my case I can’t because of my current situation at home…my mom threatens that I if I go to a CC I won’t be living at home :confused: Although it would kind of be nice since I’d have a guaranteed transfer agreement with the UMN-TC. Also, since I’ll be away from home and have the resources like the library, dorms and not having to worry about commuting everyday.</p>

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<p>thank you :slight_smile: this gives me some reassurance :slight_smile: I don’t think there’s too much of a difference between a CC and a low tier state school? as long as they’re accredited I should be fine! (apparently according the an Emory admissions officer when I asked her about if they factor in/care about the institution the transfer applicant would be applying to). Also, im low income my EFC=0 so i don’t have to worry about paying for SCSU …i should be getting my fin. aid award letter soon…</p>

<p>So far, I’ve been making a lot of progress :slight_smile: getting my act together and doing well in school…even though I’m a second semester senior lol. I plan on taking mostly genEds @ SCSU so I don’t have to worry about transferring credits in the future. I also plan on working my butt off and getting a 3.5+ gpa and joing clubs, organizations and volunteering in things that I actually like (example: Muslims Students Assoc., African Students Assoc. , Econ club (?), big brothers & sisters…, internships/work…stuff like that–and they all have those orgs at SCSU…they have something like 200+ clubs & organizations) I also plan on establishing myself and making my mark on them…with the goal of even gaining some officer positions by the time I am a sophomore. I also plan on establishing strong relationships with my professors in hopes to gain better insights on my current field of study, develop stronger writing skills and of course, gain good Letters of recommendation from them :slight_smile: I really, really want to prove how much I’ve matured and am capable of handling college level work.</p>

<p>Since I want more time to prove my abilities …I plan on being a jr transfer. So my HS record would be weighted less and the adcoms will focus more on what I’m doing now. luckily, the U of M doesn;t even look at HS stuff after 26 credits :slight_smile: Some of my dream schools are UPENN, Emory, WUSTL , Northeastern, Temple,UVA, Howard, George Mason etc just to name a few of the schools I would like to hopefully transfer to. However, I’m not going to get my hopes up too high and I will be realistic and still have my eyes set on my state flagship, UMN-TC. I just really want to move away from MN…even move out east b/c I miss living there sooo much. But I like mpls, and the umn-tc…even though it’s huge :confused: but hey, at least I like it and it’s affordable :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I’m sure there are many happy students at SCSU and other 3rd tier universities…but I feel like staying at SCSU (if i do end up there–i still havent heard back from some of the other schools i have applied to) I wont be able to achieve the goals I would like to reach in the future. And it’s certainly not the best college fit for me in terms of academics and social life. But I’m not complaining and I wouldn’t mind putting up with it for 2 years.</p>

<p>The anxiety is taking over me :frowning: everyday I obsess over the “what ifs” if I don’t get accepted anywhere as a transfer…or if I don’t get enough financial aid and I will be stuck at a college I’m not happy at = my college years have gone down the drain. I keep on telling myself to make the most out of wherever I am. So I hope I can maintain that mentality. I am a strong person and hopefully I should be able to overcome adversity and come out of this as a successful, more mature woman with a different perspective on life. I feel like the other schools I am interested in will open up many more doors for me.</p>

<p>I have the mentality that failure only makes us better, stronger & faster. I always pass by this one motivation poster that says, “If you don’t succeed you’re in good company” so many successful people in this world haven’t had their taste of success without failing (see: Abe Lincoln).</p>

<p>I guess I’m just gonna have pick myself up, dust myself off and try again.</p>

<p>***There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time.
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<p>- Malcolm X</p>

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<p>Two good years at a four-year college will let you transfer to a more-selective school. </p>

<p>Don’t worry too much about being able to transfer to a more selective school. A lot of us parents work in jobs where some of the most successful people went to colleges most people have never heard of. Make the most of the opportunities offered at college you attend and you will go far. You won’t be limited in what you can do in life by which undergraduate college you went to when you were young. Once you are out in the working world, what you do is what matters.</p>

<p>I hope you get to go visit St. Cloud State next weekend. I’m sorry you haven’t been able to find more information about it here, and I’m sorry I have no first-hand information about it. </p>

<p>Where I went to high school, any parent is proud to tell the neighbors that his son or daughter is going away to college, whether it is to Bemidji State or St. Cloud State or Gustavus or St. Olaf or UMD or the U - or one of those schools outside of Minnesota that people talk about here on CC. You can be proud of setting off on your own, going away to college in the fall. Good luck! :)</p>

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<p>I can’t speak of North Hennepin CC, but Normandale has a bunch of apartment complexes all along collegeview road. The road that is west of the campus. So you have pretty much the same accessibility as you would with a dorm situation. </p>

<p>Good luck at St. Cloud, it’s a good school, but the admission selectivity allows plenty of slackers into the school so just beware of who you make friends with there and who you choose to study with if you are a fan of group studying before tests.</p>