<p>Rumor has it that the varsity crews are suspended from competition while the administration investigates possible alcohol-related hazing of novice rowers. Anyone know anything? </p>
<p>It’s really too bad if they can’t race this fall. The women’s coach has been recruiting hard and is building quite a team.</p>
<p>umm like two weeks ago crew had its initiation. a bunch of people (like 10ish) had to go to the hospital because they had two finish handles in under an hour. </p>
<p>so yeah it was pretty bad. but i dont think they will be suspended or anything.</p>
<p>Is this males or females?</p>
<p>Or both? How many shots are in a handle?</p>
<p>I have no idea how many shots there are in a handle. Three freshman boys and one freshman girl were taken to the hospital for intoxication.</p>
<p>Are those four okay?</p>
<p>Has this sort of thing happened to Bison teams before?
Were the whole teams involved? I guess I'm naive but I didn't think girls rowing teams had "initiations". Is that common for the womens teams at a lot of DI schools? </p>
<p>Anyone know how serious a penalty is threatened? Does it look like they'll be back on the water for the spring?</p>
<p>This is really sad since the teams had great prospects.</p>
<p>The kids are fine. There was no hazing involving the girls team. You could not find a nicer group of kids.</p>
<p>I heard the Athletic Director's son is one of those who was transported to hospital. Makes the situation even stickier, if true. Anybody know?</p>
<p>I'm glad the kids are okay. My friend is a good friend of several people on the team (really nice girls from what I've seen and heard) and we were concerned but didn't want to ask. Hope they'll get back on the water soon.
Also very glad to know to know there wasn't hazing amongst the girls. We were really wondering what the he** they'd gotten themselves into.
Whatever happened, whole thing thing must have been scary for everyone, including the coaches and the parents of the kids who went to the hospital.</p>
<p>Any more on what happened and when the girls will be able to race?</p>
<p>The 30 day investigation period will probably wipe out the fall season. I expect the girls will be racing in the spring. I tend to doubt that the school would have wiped out a football or basketball season while they conduct a 30 day investigation.</p>
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<p>So what’s that supposed to mean? Brilliant. If you don’t see this a very serious stuff, potentially life threatening, they shame on you. </p>
<p>Conversely, if you’re lamenting the no doubt true speculation of hoops and football, then “right on.” </p>
<p>Today one of the greats got fired from her sport and stripped of all her Olympic medals. So indeed, Bison basketball could of and perhaps would have been eliminated for a season in light of this kind of behavior.</p>
<p>The Olympic great was convicted of a felony and tearfully confessed her guilt. I doubt she would have been punished pending results of a drug test. On the other hand, from everything I know, the girl’s team did not take part in any hazing activity but has been punished pending the results of a glacially slow investigation. The school is not even going to interview the girls until next week. I may be cynical, But under similar circumstances I doubt the administration would have been as quick to suspend a season or so slow to gather the facts and render an appropriate punishment.</p>
<p>This is from a “Rowing Website”</p>
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<p>Everyone needs to gain some perspective here. According to the dictionary; Hazing is forcing people to participate in an act that is meant to demean them by humiliation. This is not what happened at Bucknell. </p>
<p>Having spoke with people “in the know” what happened was a scavenger hunt that was in line with university sponsored initiation events, followed by a party that was approved by the university social committee. For the Scavenger hunt the frosh ran around and found stuff. Not anything illegal, and not anything different than what the entire frosh class, athletes and non athletes alike, were forced to do at the start of the school year. </p>
<p>Following the conclusion of the scavenger hunt the teams had a party. Like most college parties there was drinking, and there was underage drinking. Not unlike a lot of college parties many people drank to excess. What is lost in the shuffle, and jumping to conclusions that have occurred here, is that the party was a purely optional event attended by Varsity, and frosh alike, and that attendance of this party didn’t require anyone to drink. There were frosh and varsity that chose not to attend, without any consequences for not going to the party. There were also frosh and varsity members who did attend the party, and chose not to drink. These members were not cast out for not drinking. </p>
<p>Simply put, this was a case of a party that got out of hand, and some college freshmen drank too much. No one was forcing them to drink, or do anything they didn’t willingly choose to do on their own.</p>
<p>Sounds like someone in admin has overreacted. I know that Bucknell has had a history of frat party “problems,” and this might be a hangover from that. (Just to use a word.)</p>
<p>What a shame that the university is taking so long to go forward with the investigation. It seems to be more a type of punishment or a sending of a message than an attempt to investigate. The longer interviewing participants is delayed, the less accurate the results are likely to be: people forget and it is easier with the passage of time to tacitly agree on a tamer version of events. And the kids are missing an important part of their season that would be giving them competitive experience as a group for the spring. </p>
<p>I guess it’s easy to use a coed, non-revenue group to send a big warning to other teams. If that’s the goal, stringing it out over many weeks makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>I just hope the (building) women’s team doesn’t use its momentum.</p>
<p>I’m told that part of the problem is that the Athletic Director’s son was one of those transported to hospital and reported that he was forced to drink. Maybe CYA?..has to “muddy the waters”. Anybody hear about this??</p>
<p>I suggest we respect the privacy of individuals and not get into who was involved since the results of the investigation continue to be pending. Otherwise we risk hurting the reputations of innocent student athletes without due process… something that apparently the Bucknell administration is not equally conncerned about.</p>
<p>You make a very good point, RowDad. I apologize. Isn’t the team getting due process? Thought the administration was going to be interviewing those involved during the investigation.</p>