Healthcare: A right?

<p>Discuss. I for one believe it is, though not Constitutionally mandated.</p>

<p>In my opinion -- life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are the only rights that everyone else has. Helalthcare should only be a right for those who do something to earn it.</p>

<p>woohoo, I got a live one! Well, I don't see it as a right as much as I see it as the moral and human thing to do.</p>

<p>This is a catch-22 for me as I want my fiancee to have a cure for MS, but the damn medication is so expensive. She is on Medicaid so its covered. (Covers nursing home also) But there needs to be more accountiblity for these medical places as they overcharge drastically for basic services. You can't tell me that a hospital stay truly costs $2500 a day. Total BS</p>

<p>What I was going for is let's say you have nothing: no money, no insurance, you're broke, on welfare, live in the ghetto (not WWII), and you need an expensive heart transplant or whathaveyou. I remember thinking back to JohnQ (yes, I watched it, I give it 6/10) and wondering why should the person have to die when the cure is right in front of their eyes, and the only thing that prevents them from living on is money. In case you're wondering, ndbisme is not dying... yet.</p>

<p>to keep up the quality of healthcare, it needs to stay private</p>

<p>Definetly keep it private. The supreme ultimate question though is: Do we put a cost on human life? I have read stories where up to five million dollars was spent to save just one patient.</p>

<p>I agree that it needs to remain private, but monopolies and price controls need to be removed. Surely we want improvements and advances in healthcare, but the price, in terms of dollar bills, is egregious (WARNING: SAT WORD ALERT). I mean, why the hell is medicine and healthcare cheaper in Canada than in the US? I actually know the answer (ability to pay), it was meant as a rhetorical question.</p>

<p>True many treatments maybe cheaper in Canada, but call up for an elective surgery, or an appointment to use an MRI. 4-6 month wait minimum. What America needs is a blend of the 2 systems. (US and Canuck)</p>

<p>Hmm (again :) )... in the last post I was mostly focusing on drugs. As far as healthcare (physicians, etc.) I don't really know what to do.</p>

<p>I'd move to Cuba if people perceived it as a right. Instead we have dumbasses here who think we should privatise health way to go! :rolleyes:</p>

<p>keep those private companies ripping off out of the people!</p>

<p>Rhizome: Despite people's criticism of you on this board, I find you refreshing and I'm always glad to see your posts.
Others: The right wing has fooled you; there is a way to implement non-private healthcare and still keep quality around. It's called upgrades, a mix of public and private. Therefore, those that have income, or more income can have the most efficient healthcare. But those who are poor still get some basic healthcare, which I believe everyone deserves, basically the minimum necessity for life.</p>

<p>Thank you grammy. Excellent post.</p>

<p>As a person who has an inside view into private healthcare (my mother is the director of 4 major departments at one of the world's largest hospitals), the need and expense of health care is a right for every being on earth. There should be no turning down of patient's if they are in need of care and if they cannot pay for the entirety of the medical bill, have them pay what they can and then make a contract to pay off the rest in installments. </p>

<p>Healthcare is expensive, but every person deserves quality healthcare. That is undeniable.</p>

<p>A certain level of healthcare should be available to all but money should buy a better quality/more advanced. </p>

<p>... its a touchy moral subject that I don't have time to write about right now.</p>

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<p>Socialism. :)</p>

<p>I mean, Canada does it, so it MUST be the right thing to do then. RIGHT!?</p>

<p>Nah, it's not a right. Rich people get to stay alive and others die. That's what I call natural selection.</p>

<p>J/K, I like it if healthcare is guaranteed for everyone.</p>

<p>I'm all for healthcare. Maybe it's the Canadian in me speaking. Yay for universal health insurance!</p>

<p>On the subject of John Q, though my memory is kinda shaky on the movie, what gave him or anyone for that matter to demand a right to a transplant simply just because he needed it?</p>

<p>Nothing, that's why held up the hospital until he got it.</p>

<p>That's why that movie made me mad. I mean did Mr. John Q think that there wasn't other people out there feeling desperate to save their loved ones with a transplant? And just because he exerts brute strength, he gets what he wants, but it doesn't make it right.</p>