Help another Dartmouth Lover.

<p>Over the past few months, I have fallen in love with Dartmouth! Its just Dartmouth that comes to my mind. When anyone asks me where do you want to go.....Dartmouth! :D BUT I cant decide whether I should apply early or not. Because I think MIT or Stanford are better in the Engg. Dept.</p>

<p>People help me decide. Is Engg dept of Dartmouth good enough? Why shouldnt or should I apply ED?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Go to MIT/Stanford for engineering.</p>

<p>Seriously.</p>

<p>I think you really have to ask yourself why you want to be an engineer. Most Ivy League engineers realize the financial industry is much more lucrative and because of this they take finance oriented jobs or work in areas such as venture capital. If you want to go work for google, then major in computer science at a top CS school (ie MIT or Stanford). Or do you actually want to work in manufacturing, etc?</p>

<p>Well I will be doing my post-graduation course in Aerospace after doing my undergraduation in Engg. I don't think I would like to start working directly after my UG. But I want to do my UG from a college that is all rounded. I dont want to study all day and still get a damn B or C. The college should give me a homely feel. <-- These are the reasons why I love dartmouth.</p>

<p>My major would be <a href="http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/undergraduate/be/mechanical-solid.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/undergraduate/be/mechanical-solid.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And this is what REALLY hooked me : </p>

<p>Academic reputation</p>

<p>In 2007, Dartmouth College was ranked ninth (tied with Columbia University and the University of Chicago) among undergraduate programs at national universities by U.S. News and World Report. However, since Dartmouth is ranked in a category for national research universities, some have questioned the fairness of the ranking given the College's emphasis on undergraduate education. The 2006 Carnegie Foundation classification listed Dartmouth as the only majority-undergraduate, arts-and-sciences focused institution in the country that also had some graduate coexistence and very high research activity.</p>

<p>Dartmouth's Honor Principle</p>

<p>Dartmouth College has a well-established Honor Principle that binds all students to be responsible for each other's learning. Exams are not proctored, take-home exams are common, and students are entrusted with the responsibility not to cheat. "On February 1, 1962, a majority vote of the student body adopted the principle that 'all academic activities will be based on student honor' and thereby accepted the responsibility, individually and collectively, to maintain and perpetuate the principle of academic honor."[29]</p>

<p>Ok I will probably tell you what I really want. I want to do Engg. from a good school. Well I think good relations with the Profs. would be wonderful. As I said I dont really plan to work after my UG, even if I do I would be going to something defense related like becoming a pilot or joining the Army. Most probably I would be pusuing Aerospace at Graduate level. And then work at NASA or some other Space Agency. [I actually want to be an astronaut :D ]
College for me is not just about studying all day and then earning money after you complete college. You know like just goto college because you can earn money later. Its about the whole experience. Building great friendships, working together, partying and ofcourse studying. I don't want to get lost in the crowd. It shouldn't be like the Professors even don't know who Ajay is when he is asked to write a damn recommendation letter. Dartmouth, from what I have read, is a WONDERFUL college. The professors are warm, the campus is breath taking, the Dorms are really good! Everything seems so perfect!</p>

<pre><code> There I have said everything I had on my mind. Now help me decide. Why and Why I shouldn't come to Dartmouth!!!
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<p>clearly you want dartmouth man. apply early and dont look back -- youll regret it if you happen to get into mit/stanford and go there just for the minimally better name.</p>

<p>Or...you'll regret it if you DON'T get into MIT/Stanford early and lose that ED card for Dartmouth.</p>

<p>But let's not kid ourselves here. You're clearly a better fit for Stanford. Probably less so at MIT, but both schools would do you better justice.</p>

<p>Ok can someone tell me what are the 'flaws' in Dartmouth Engg. Program? I mean you dont get employed? You dont get to do research? The Engg Dept is not upto the mark? I won't get internships there?</p>

<p>As it is I cant apply early to MIT since I am an International. So I think Stanford is the only choice I have. But but Dartmouth is...... ;)</p>

<p>I am looking for reasons to prove that DARTMOUTH Engg. Dept isnt as bad as people think it is :D </p>

<p>I found something here
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edartlife/archives/16-4/car.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dartlife/archives/16-4/car.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edartlife/archives/15-3/bus.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dartlife/archives/15-3/bus.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edartlife/archives/17-2/future.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dartlife/archives/17-2/future.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edartlife/archives/13-5/unplugged.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dartlife/archives/13-5/unplugged.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/helpworldwide/HELP_EWB.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/helpworldwide/HELP_EWB.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edartlife/archives/15-2/health.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dartlife/archives/15-2/health.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Edartlife/archives/16-1/robots.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dartlife/archives/16-1/robots.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Well from what I can figure out is that students at DARTMOUTH are encouraged to foster new ideas. AND DARTMOUTH doesn't mind sponsoring them ;)</p>

<p>I hope I am not wrong... :)</p>

<p>My friend is an engineering major here and he thinks the department is great. Because we also have our own engineering grad school, I think some of the undergrad classes are taught by the grad school profs or undergrads are allowed to take courses there as well. There's some beneficial arrangement along those lines.</p>

<p>Also because it is not one of the most popular majors, classes are likely to be small and profs very accessible. And teaching is the priority for all profs -- not research.</p>

<p>I fear that at MIT the department may be larger and profs may be focused more on research than on teaching.</p>

<p>Check out the department website for more info:
<a href="http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/undergraduate/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/undergraduate/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>BigGreenJen : I agree. I am still adamant on the thought that DARTMOUTH MUST have a wonderful Engg. Dept! I saw that link way before but I wanted some proof about DARTMOUTH Engg Dept achievements so I had to dig in Dartlife issues :)</p>

<p>And I think I am going to apply ED ;)</p>

<p>Other feedback and opinions are welcome!</p>

<p>btw does Dartmouth give out free penants? or whatever those traingular flags are called ;)</p>

<p>oh damn I am falling in love with anything ** Green**</p>

<p>Ok another thread about Thayer :)</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=243297%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=243297&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Seriously, go to Stanford. All of what you mentioned will likely be true. Most likely, you won't get an internship, as you are international so I presume you aren't that well connected. And if you are not connected, not many companies come to Dartmouth to recruit, so you won't get an internship. Because you had no internship, companies will not invite you for full time position interviews. And because Thayer profs are not well connected and out of touch with outside, you won't get a job there either. And because there are so few professors, you'll end up doing some research in bio or ice, as there is no other choice.</p>

<p>After I finish college I am coming back to my country to join the Air Force so I dont think jobs is a priority for me.</p>

<p>^ Just to elaborate.</p>

<p>If my plans of join the Indian Air Force fluctuate after completing college I still dont see myself working directly after UG I plan to do my Masters and then earn some Moolah. ;)</p>

<p>do dartmouth undergrad and finish your masters somewhere else. if you do well at dartmouth there aren't many top institutions that will reject you. Go to dartmouth and then stanford or MIT or berkeley.</p>