Help me make my final decision!

I can’t believe it’s finally time for me to startmaking my final decision on where I’m going to college! It has been quite the journey, and though it isn’t over just yet, I’m ready for it to be. For those who don’t know, I applied to 10 schools but have narrowed it down to my 3 top choices. It’s such a neck-and-neck race that I’m having trouble making a decision on my own, so I’ve decided to seek out the advice of you fine CC folk.

(I have decided to take Beloit College, Loyola University Chicago, Michigan State University, Purdue University, Denison University, Grand Valley State University, and University of Rochester* out of the running. If you read the descriptions of the colleges below and believe that one or more of these is actually a good fit for me, please don’t be shy to point it out!)

    • I was waitlisted at Denison and did not accept a spot. I only included the name so any interested parties could see where I applied.
      ** - I have not yet heard back from Rochester, but I will most likely be denied/waitlisted and will once again not accept a spot. If I do somehow get accepted, I will let everyone know.

Things are about to get long-winded because it’s time for my top 3 colleges! In no particular order…

Kalamazoo College
Imagine my surprise when a likely letter came from K in the mail a few days ago! It’s a solid school academically and for them to really want me was definitely an eye-opened. K is a great fit for me politically as it is very left-wing and liberal. K students make sure that their voice is heard, and that’s something I personally look for in a school. The academics are rigorous and grad schools/employers view K in high regard. It’s also great for economics/business, which would be my major. I haven’t heard from FA yet, but they told me in my LL that I received a nice merit scholarship (probably between 17-24k since that’s the range I’ve gotten from other schools), so I’m not worried about it being affordable. There aren’t any frats/sororities either, and as someone who is very much not a fan of Greek life, I appreciate that. It’s also located close to home in a pretty nice city, so that’s a plus. My only problem with it is that (from what I’ve heard) it’s a pretty big party school, especially since Western Michigan is so close by. Western is one of the premier “party colleges” in the U.S., and I’m just not about that life. I know that I don’t have to be involved if I don’t want to, but it’s an issue that is genuinely bothering me. I’ve also heard that the Wi-Fi can get quite slow at times, and as someone who spends all of their time on the internet, this is a concern. (I realize how trivial these drawbacks are and that’s why K is one of my top choices! I still have yet to visit, but plan on it very soon. I can’t imagine not liking it - there’s yet to be a college that I haven’t seen some redeemable qualities in.)

Case Western Reserve University
Opening my application portal to find an acceptance letter waiting for me was one of the most shocking experiences I’ve ever had in my life. Never in a million years did I think I would get accepted. Even though I now know that I was accepted largely in part to my major (economics instead of the many, many engineering applications they receive), I still feel humbled and honored to have been accepted. The prestige is the biggest draw here; Case Western is one of the best schools in the United States for not only engineering, but just about any major. The research opportunities here are unparalleled and will really make me stand out from the crowd when applying for jobs. I absolutely love the campus. I find it quirky and fascinating. Call it ugly, call it mis-matchy, I don’t care. I also think that, socially, Case is the best school for me. As an LGBT applicant, finding a place where I will be accepted and be able to freely express my sexuality (as weird as that sounds lol) is something that’s very important to me. Case is notable for being LGBT-friendly. They judge a person by their character and not by anything else, and that’s something I’m looking for in a student body. Diversity is important to me as well, and Case takes the cake for being the most diverse of the bunch. I’ve gone to private, preppy “rich white kid” schools my entire life and am ready for something new. Case doesn’t come without its drawbacks, however. The most notable downside to Case is the price. My family is expected to pay 41k a year for me to go to Case. This is doable with loans (it would only be 27k total over 4 years. I know exactly what I’d be getting myself into, so please don’t freak out about it), but definitely not optimal. Case also isn’t exactly known for being a great school for economics. Though it’s a great school, there isn’t a whole lot of emphasis put on business majors. Additionally, since Case was a reach for me from the start, I would be at the bottom 25% of my class. Even if I put in 110% into everything I do, I’d still never reach the top. Not that you have to be at the top of your class to succeed, but I would still like to go somewhere I can shine and stand out as a student. I absolutely love this place regardless, and am looking forward to your thoughts on Case!

College of Wooster
Wooster. When I visited, my dad and I literally cried because the city and campus was so beautiful. It might have been the bitter cold getting to us, but I guess we’ll never know. In terms of location, Wooster takes the cake for me. Everything I could ever want is right there in the city. The sense of community is overwhelming, and I know that I would make lifelong friendships with the locals. I also love Wooster’s ISP program, providing me with a chance to do research and make my resume pop to future employers. The professors at Wooster are all so full of life and willing to help. They genuinely want you to succeed, and that’s a vibe that goes directly against the “professors don’t care” stereotype given to colleges these days. I was also given a huge 96k scholarship (24k a year) that makes Wooster very affordable for our family.This is kind of where the positives end, however. Academically, Wooster is probably the weakest of my top 3. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a solid school in my opinion, but K and Case are simply better. Since I’m majoring in economics, I think that prestige of my school may play a part in the job that I land. If that’s the case, I’m better of at K or Case. Also, Wooster is a HUGE drinking school (the house I stayed in when I visited was literally littered with alcohol bottles) and the frats/sororities are located in the dorms, meaning that there’s no escaping the noise and culture of parties. I realize that this is actually quite conservative of me, especially for someone who considers themself to be a liberal, but this is how I feel and I’m not going to censor it. Obviously I’m not going to yell at people for partying or not talk to someone because they party, I just really don’t want to be a part of it. To each their own. Even with these downsides, I think that Wooster is a great school and I really, really like it! The positives definitely outweight the negatives in this situation.

I leave this in your hands now. Any insight on what college I should choose? If you need any further information from me, don’t be afraid to ask!

Putting myself in your shoes, I’d go with option A. I would have gone with B but graduating without loans far outweighs the minor edge that option B has.

Anyways, ditch Wooster. That’s kinda obvious from your thoughts on it.

Second vote for ditching Wooster. I know you have the nice scholarship and it’s affordable, but you seem baggy on it anyways.

Unfortunately, as nice of a school as Case Western is, it just doesn’t look affordable as it could be. So on that fun note, Kalamazoo wins!

One thing to be aware of at Kalamzoo is they really stress the study abroad and many students participate (80% according to the Fiske College guide). So this results in a large portion of the student population away at certain parts of the year. As this is a small school, it could affect your overall experience. Fiske rates Wooster’s academics higher with economics listed as one of their strongest programs.and it is on the Colleges That Change Lives list. It also describes the student environment at Wooster as collaborative. I’m not sure where you are getting all your information about the partying aspects but it is not commented on. I would highly recommend reading the Fiske guide descriptions as they tend to be much more descriptive than the other guides. My vote goes to Wooster.

Thanks for your advice, everyone! Despite the description I wrote, I really do like Wooster and would be plenty happy there should I choose to enroll. @singermom4 brings up an interesting point about K that I never would have thought of. I did know that K was a huge “study abroad” school but I never connected it to having an even smaller student body on campus at any given time. I don’t know that this is necessarily a negative, but I’ll have to go do more research on it.

Again, thank you everyone for your help, and I can’t wait to see what every one else has to say!

To get a better handle on the numbers, when you have the financial aid packages in hand, run them here: http://www.finaid.org/calculators/awardletteradvanced.phtml

Specific questions to ask about merit-based aid include:

  1. Is it a fixed dollar amount, or is it set as a percentage of tuition/fees/total cost of attendance so that it will increase as those costs go up?
  2. Do you need to maintain a specific GPA or stay in a specific major or participate in a specific program in order to keep receiving that money?
  3. Can it be used to help cover the cost of study abroad? If so, can it only be used in programs sponsored by the college/university, or can you also use it in other programs?

Based on your stated criteria and observations. The first two I put as a tie:

  1. CWRU: Though you may be entering in the statistical bottom 25th percentile, where you end up will be up to you. And your strong writing will help you more than you may realize. A larger school may be more “naturally” liberal. The UAA keeps athletics in proper perspective. Your loans will be about the price of a new car – a bargain for a four-year experience.

  2. Kalamazoo: Sounds great also! You really have to find out if the “party school” reputation is real and whether it would meaningfully affect you.

  3. COW: Sounds like the most “classic” college of the three. But, if you ignore the feel you got of the residential campus culture, and hope for a better experience when you attend, what was the point of your visit? However, I would not consider the college lower than Kalamazoo reputationally, and the financial benefits are nice.

Honestly, a tough choice. Good luck!

Thanks again everyone for your help! I don’t have a ton of insight on FA as of yet, but Wooster just sent a letter outlining exactly what I would have to pay, and the price is 5k more than I had expected. My parents are now considering loans for Wooster, and even though I want to completely avoid loans if at all possible, it might as well be at Case Western if it’s going to happen. Hopefully Kalamazoo will swoop in with a competitive offer that will make my decision easy.

Econ is considered a social science, not a business course. It uses scientific methods to build theories that can help explain the behaviour of individuals, groups and organisations. Econ is theory and analysis, business is the practice.

Good point @BrownParent but some schools offer more of the theoretical economics and some more business oriented (thinking finance, consulting) so it’s good to look in detail at the programs. If you intend to study economics for grad studies it will involve very high level mathematics and getting a good foundation at the undergrad level (and good grades in those courses) would be beneficial towards admission into a grad school for economics.

I believe that the econ degree at Kalamazoo and Case are both heavily business oriented. Not sure about Wooster though, but I think it’s considered to be a more of a quantitative, scientific degree there. That’s the vibe I got from their website, at least. I’m honestly fine with either way since I haven’t decided just what I want to do with my degree yet, but I think I would prefer a more business-oriented approach.

Hey everyone! I have a major update for you all.

Last night, I was officially accepted to both Kalamazoo (with an 88k scholarship) and my dream school, University of Rochester! This means that I have to add a 4th school into the running. My main question right now is that if I don’t have immediate plans to attend grad school right out of college, is it OK to take out more loans? Rochester is my dream school, and I’d be willing to take out as much as needed to attend. It may seem rash, but I’m sure you can all understand where I’m coming from.

I’m just beyond blessed (and shocked) to have been accepted! I love every single facet about Rochester, and for that it zooms up to the top of my list.

Last update!

I sent in my enrollment deposit to College of Wooster today! I am absolutely thrilled with my decision. It wasn’t an easy one to make, but I know that I’ve ended up at home. I’m so excited to be a Fighting Scot next year!

Congratulations! I hope you post in the fall and let us know how becoming a Fighting Scot has worked out for you.

Congrats! We’ve been in some of the same forums so I’ve been following your journey. So glad you have reached a decision you are happy with!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!:slight_smile: Do you mind sharing how you made your choice!?

Thank you everyone for all of your support! I really appreciate it.

I’m actually surprised of how easy of a decision this became. OK. So in the end, it came down to Wooster, Kalamazoo, and Rochester. I had to take Case out because we found out it was unaffordable.

Yesterday we visited Kalamazoo College and I absolutely hated it. I don’t know why, because it’s not actually that different from Wooster, but I just did not get that “homey” feeling I got when I visited Wooster.

When I got home from Kalamazoo, I had an email from Rochester FA. I opened it and found out that I was offered nothing, and that may estimated total cost of attendance each year was around 58k. That is far and above out of reach for our family. Wooster, on the other hand, fell perfectly within our range. (Kalamazoo was even cheaper than Wooster, but, as I said, I really didn’t want to go.)

To be honest, even though Rochester was my first choice school, I wasn’t upset that I didn’t get enough aid. I feel like I’ve known for a while now that Wooster was the school for me. I’m so happy to call Wooster my home for the next four years! Go Scots!

Thank you so much for this last post, very clear and very useful for students who make decisions. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the explanation. I thought I recalled you had said cost was not an issue a while back (hence, considering CWRU) so it helps to have that clarified.

@minohi You are such a great writer and a genuinely nice person as well…you are going to do great no matter what you go!