Help! NYC colleges

<p>Senior in High School
1790 SAT, 1190 M+CR
3.6 GPA
Teacher Assistant, Red Cross Club, Office Intern, JV Football, Charity/Volunteering Club
Had honors classes but not in honors academy
Want to become a math teacher
Looking for a relatively cheap NYC school</p>

<p>Want to Apply to:
Hunter College
City College
Brooklyn College</p>

<p>Questions:
-What do you need to pay for in college?
-What's a good college/university/graduate school for education?
-Is it true that you take classes that aren't really relevant to your major for the first two years of college and then take relevant classes the next?
-Should I attend a college shown above for the first two years and transfer out?
-Is transferring out a difficult process?
-Downsides to Hunter College/City College/Brooklyn College?
-Should I attend a community college for the first two years and transfer out?
-Downsides to attending community college, rather than Hunter/City/Brooklyn?
-If you're a teacher, explain the whole process of becoming one (like which college(s) did you attend, did you attend graduate school, the process of obtaining a teaching certification, what else you needed to do to finally become a teacher in a school, any additional information that you would tell a prospective teacher).</p>

<p>I know I probably sound new but I just want to get my facts straight. You don't have to answer all the questions but if you wish to, I will appreciate it! Thanks!</p>

<p>You may be able to save money at a CC, but all the schools you listed are CUNY’s so you will have reasonable tuition (compared to many other schools.) If you commute from home, you save on housing costs (and presumably a meal plan). </p>

<p>For teaching, it is my opinion that going to a CUNY or SUNY is the most economically ay to obtain this degree. You will take all required courses for your major, some general courses required of the university, and a some elective courses you just want to take. In addition, you will student teach for a semester. </p>

<p>Teaching options include, elementary ed, HS, a specific course, ie, physics teacher, gym teacher, or art or music teacher, special ed. etc… I’m sure you can google a site to all teaching majors. </p>

<p>I think there is a certification test to obtain your teaching license in NY. Also, you’ll need to get a Master’s Degree, but many districts will help pay for this while you are employed (teaching at the school). I think pay scales (levels) reflect the number of Master credits you accumulate.</p>

<p>CC and transfer I would think could be done though it is easier just o go to a 4 year school with your major and stay put!</p>

<p>No I am not a teacher. Hopefully someone else can post additional information (and maybe more accurate) for you.</p>

<p>Also, ask one of your teachers all these questions. They should be a great source of information.</p>

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<li> Are you a NYC resident?</li>
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<p>If not, then you will have to pay tuition based on out of city/ out of state rates</p>

<p>[Tuition</a> & Fees - Admissions - CUNY](<a href=“http://www.cuny.edu/admissions/tuition-fees.html]Tuition”>http://www.cuny.edu/admissions/tuition-fees.html) </p>

<p>IF you attend HS in NYS, what are your English and Math regents scores? There is no remediation at the 4 year CUNY (if you don’t have the requisite SAT/Regents scores, you will not be accepted to a 4 year school)</p>

<p>CUNY is rolling admissions (CUNY application was just posted last week)</p>

<p>Application fee is $65 for 6 choices. My recommendation is to choose 3/4 4 year schools and 2 community colleges (the default used to be if you did not get in to a 4 year school, you were automatically given a seat at the CC in the borough that you live in, but that is no longer the case).</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cuny.edu/admissions/undergraduate/downloads/Admission-Profile-2012.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cuny.edu/admissions/undergraduate/downloads/Admission-Profile-2012.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Hunter will be a reach.</p>

<p>CUNY is now trying to use a more holistic approach. You can now submit an essay and recommendation letters (talk to your counselor about this).</p>

<p>If you are not in NYC, you must factor in the cost of dorms (limited capacity) or finding a place to live).</p>

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<p>The testing part will happen probably senior year of college; you will take the LAST, CTS (content test in the content you are planning to teach) and ATS-W</p>

<p>You must obtain your masters with in 5 years of working as a teacher. You will get a salary bump once you have a masters and another salary bump once you obtain 30 credits over your masters (however there are many ways to obtain these 30 credits).</p>

<p>Do you have an idea as to what kind of teacher you want to become? Right now there is a freeze on common branch (K-6), English, Social studies, PE, the arts. We recently posted a social studies position and literally had a couple of hundred applicants within 2 days from outside of the DOE system (hired a teacher who had been subbing for 3 years trying to get a job within the DOE. </p>

<p>It is easier to get a job as a Special education, Math or science teacher.</p>

<p>@sybbie719</p>

<p>Math Regents:
Algebra 93
Geometry 95
Alg 2/Trig 96
English 81</p>

<p>I’m a NYC resident.
I’m taking AP Calc this year.
As I said before, I want to become a math teacher. Most likely secondary/middle school.
My plan is to enroll into one of the three schools. After the first two years, I will try to transfer out to another school that may provide a better program for education, such as SUNY Geneseo or Stony Brook. If I don’t get accepted, I can still bounce back to the college I will attend. Do you think this is a good idea?</p>

<p>What do you think I should do my senior year? So far, I just got a job to become an after school teacher at a local prep center. I’ve done lots of research on college and glanced over the Common App and CUNY App.</p>

<p>It seems like you work for a school. What do want and look for in a teacher?</p>

<p>One thing about working for the DOE, it really doesn’t “matter” where you went to undergrad. Any and all education programs you attend in NYS will prepare you to become certified to work in NYS as a teacher (this is what matters). You will look to major in math because as a 7-12 teacher, you will major in math and then take the ed courses needed for certification.</p>

<p>how do your SAT scores break out CR/Math</p>

<p>I would recommend retaking the English regents</p>

<p>You will eventually have to attend grad school, where the only financial aid is loans (my advice is to keep your undergrad debt as low as possible).</p>

<p>Right now your scores are a little low for Stony Brook and Geneseo</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.suny.edu/student/downloads/Pdf/Admissions_qf_stateop.pdf[/url]”>https://www.suny.edu/student/downloads/Pdf/Admissions_qf_stateop.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you have a copy of your transcript, you can start doing the SOAR for SUNY</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.suny.edu/student/app_suny_soar.cfm[/url]”>https://www.suny.edu/student/app_suny_soar.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Take a look at CUNY’s estimate of housing costs - $10,300 a year. That number still probably assumes 3 roommates in a closet. For most colleges outside of expensive cities, that number would be around $5,000.</p>

<p>OP is a NYC resident, who will most likely live at home if s/he attends CUNY</p>

<p>If you are commuting from home, test out the commute during busy times from your home. I know a woman who works only 30 blocks from her home in Manhattan, but it still takes 45 minutes each way to commute, because there is not a direct subway line. If the commute is unusually long, it may affect your decision-making.</p>

<p>$10,300 isn’t necessarily 3 roommates in a closet, especially if it’s a 9-month calculation. That’s rougly $1150 a month; you can share a decent-sized apartment with 1 or 2 roommates in the lower-cost areas of the city (Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, Inwood, Wash Heights, Harlem). Me and a roommate rented a pretty big apartment in Washington Heights for $1800/month.</p>

<p>Anyway, I think you should apply to Geneseo and Stony Brook too - just to see what happens - but yes, going to a CUNY college and planning to transfer isn’t necessarily a bad plan. Is there any reason that you aren’t applying to City, Queens, Lehman, and/or York? City College in particular is known to be good for math. Lehman is a good school, too.</p>

<p>Attending a community college would be cheaper, but I think that attending a four-year college might be better for you. Like you said, you can always choose to stay where you are after your first two years, and also four-year colleges are just different environments - everyone’s there for the long haul, whereas CCs are often populated by students taking one or two classes or who are there for the 2 year programs. If you’re especially focused a CC could be a great money-saving endeavor, but CUNY colleges are extremely affordable especially if you commute from home.</p>

<p>Direct college costs usually consist of tuition and fees. There’s also room (paying for an apartment; n/a if you are living at home) and board (the cost of eating). You will also have to buy books and miscellaneous items - like pencils and notebooks, maybe a computer, maybe special software for a class. There’s also the cost of travel/commuting, and then any personal expenses like hanging out with friends or buying clothes for school.</p>

<p>About the classes - well, theoretically. Most colleges require general education classes across a range of fields (humanities, fine arts, social sciences, and natural/physical sciences, as well as English comp, math, foreign language, and maybe other things). But in practice, most students take some major classes and some general education requirements every year of school, maybe except senior year when you’re only taking major classes. Especially in a math major - you will HAVE to take calculus II and calculus III in your first year in order for you to graduate on time in your major (or at the very least, tale calculus III in the fall of your sophomore year) since those are usually required prerequisites for almost every other course in the major.</p>

<p>The traditional route to teaching is that you major in math education at a school that has the program. You take some education and math classes, and in your last semester you student teach. You take an exam, likely in your senior year, and get licensed to teach. At the same time you are applying to jobs contingent upon licensure, and you start teaching in the fall.</p>

<p>But there are other ways. Especially in math, there are alternative certification programs that allow you to start teaching even if you aren’t licensed (like if you attended a school that doesn’t have math education and licensing requirements) and get licensed during your first 2-3 years of teaching by taking night classes. Sometimes you can arrange this individually with a school, but there are also formal programs that do this, like NYC Teaching Fellows and Teach for America. School districts usually only do this if they are facing teacher shortages, though.</p>

<p>Most teachers, I think, eventually get master’s degrees in their field. It can be the only way to advance and/or get a pay raise.</p>

<p>The CUNY schools are excellent and if you like them there is no reason to transfer. I got my graduate degree from Hunter in an education related field ( back in the dark ages) and the program was very difficult and competitive. Two students actually dropped out because of the stress and level of difficulty and went to Columbia. From what I gather Hunter still remains a very good school, and any school will meet the requirements that are necessary to teach in NY. It does not matter what school you go to for your undergraduate degree.</p>

<p>There’s a new Math Education program at City Tech that might interest you. The faculty is impressive and the program looks really well thought-out.
[New</a> York City College of Technology - Mathematics - Math Education](<a href=“http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/academics/deptsites/mathematics/matheducation.aspx]New”>http://www.citytech.cuny.edu/academics/deptsites/mathematics/matheducation.aspx)</p>