<p>Thanks, bear. :) </p>
<p>But when you said to stop ... Julia and I are just joking around; we go to school together and we're best friends so we tease each other and stuff. That's what this "argument" has been about. We're not really arguing, not like some people on this board usually do!</p>
<p>"Just that when it was founded, it was meant to be as successful as New York but failed, and that it's filled with industrialized factories but still called "The Garden State". Ah, to hear my dad say it with an accent. Priceless."</p>
<p>olivia, that is completly untrue. if you have been to NJ you would have seen that N is not filled with industries and that according to forbes the citizens of NJ are wealthier than the citizens of NY. NJ is ranked #2 while NY is ranked #8, California 13, Florida 18.</p>
<p>jlg023
i luv NJ!!!!! i live in NY but only 20 min away from NJ, especially Bergen County!!!!!</p>
<p>There are so many filthy rich kids in NJ because there is so much land.
It isn't all factories.. those factories are only by some highways</p>
<p>i agree witg Msu Completly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>jersey sucks, nuff said</p>
<p>i lived on the jersey shore (monmouth county), and i only saw a factory when i went to the airport. most people only see what's by the airport. new jersey used to be more prestigious than other states because it was close to NYC and presidents liked the vacation there (eg, Seven Presidents Park).. and then they established the horse racing business, which attracted some gangsters, etc.... i personally found the nouveau riche (who infiltrated even the most established clubs and towns) distasteful. Luckily, some old families have stayed their ground... those are the ones WITHOUT the accents. =)</p>
<p>so yeah, lots of annoying snotty accented brats, and a few established families who like the view.</p>
<p>Not sure where this perception came from that Lawrenceville is easy to get into. That is purely mis-information.</p>
<p>Last year Lawrenceville's acceptance rate was 21.2% (348 Acceptances out of 1643 applications). That is lower than Choate (24.9%), SPS (22%), and Exeter (22%). It is slightly higher than Deerfield (20.5%) and Andover (20.3%).</p>
<p>SGS & Brooks are nowhere near this selective. Taft is closer, but still not as selective.</p>
<p>Also, I'm not sure where everyone claims to find this SSAT information. I've followed boarding school admissions for years, and I know most schools do not routinely report average SSAT scores. If someone could actually point me to a reliable resource for this information, I would be quite surprised.</p>
<p>your information for all schools but lawrenceville are definitely old. SPS, exeter, deerfield, andover and hotchkiss all have sub 20% acceptance rate last year, choate was around the ballpark, while you admit rate for L is definitely updated..
Deerfield topped the list last year having a whooping 16% acceptance rate, then SPS, exeter, andover and hotchkiss all fell below 20%
i know you got the information from petersons for the other schools, it is definitely not updated..mind I let u know that the admit rate for lawrenceville on petersons is still the old 25%...</p>
<p>so yes, lawrenceville is still easier (but not by far) than andover, exeter, deerfield, SPS, hotchkiss and milton (the sub 20s)</p>
<p>Lawrenceville IS easier to get into. Like bear said, that information is old.</p>
<p>Bearcats, don't dismiss other people's information without providing links to your own. The following links all quote the acceptance rates i stated above:</p>
<p>Choate: <a href="http://thenews.choate.edu/2006/04/07/News/Class_of_2010_Most_Selecti.php%5B/url%5D">http://thenews.choate.edu/2006/04/07/News/Class_of_2010_Most_Selecti.php</a>
Andover: <a href="http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/facts.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/facts.htm</a>
Deerfield: <a href="http://www.deerfield.edu/admissions/index.cfm?page_ID=262%5B/url%5D">http://www.deerfield.edu/admissions/index.cfm?page_ID=262</a>
SPS: <a href="http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=5673%5B/url%5D">http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=5673</a> *for 05-06
Exeter: <a href="http://www.exeter.edu/documents/facts2_2007.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.exeter.edu/documents/facts2_2007.pdf</a> *for 05-06</p>
<p>I can't find any stats on Hotchkiss' web site. Maybe you can point us towards some?</p>
<p>The only school i used Peterson's for is Lawrenceville:</p>
<p>"For fall 2006, there were 1,643 formal applications for grades 9 through 12, of which 348 were accepted, and 236 enrolled in the following grades: grade 9, 148; grade 10, 57; grade 11, 10; and grade 12, 21 (including postgraduates)."</p>
<p>Other school's information comes from their respective websites.</p>
<p>I am positive that hotchkiss is 20% since our head of school said it a couple times.
I am also pretty sure that deerfield is 16% becoz it was on our school newspaper; an article about how schools got so much harder to get into. They might not have updated their websites.
The SPS and exeter data are both 1 year old. Both school have gotten more selective last year, as did every single school.
Andover's link doesnt work</p>
<p>Choate is 20%.</p>
<p>olivia, if choate's paper says it's 24% ..it cant be wrong</p>
<p>Oh, whoops.That's prob. more accurate than my source... Choates webbie said that they accepted 1 out of every 5 students so i assumed that it was 20 percent.</p>
<p>Andover's link does work, i just clicked it. Try to copy & paste.</p>
<p>I did label SPS and exeter as being for 2005-2006 - i have yet to find updated information anywhere. Your head of school might very well be rounding your admission rate, I doubt he would bother to quote the exact rate. Choate & Andover's admission stats are clearly marked on the websites I linked to.</p>
<p>In all honesty, I'm not trying to say any single school is harder to get into than others, I was saying there is a large grouping of schools that are essentially as hard as one another to get into. And all information shows Lawrenceville to be in that group (where it has historically always been). All of these schools are on more of a level playing field than people realize.</p>
<p>Everyone on this thread has thrown around #'s, but I'm the only one that has shown supporting informatin. I would be very interested to see other people's supporting information.</p>
<p>20% for hotchkiss is also backed by peterson's</p>
<p>i didnt just see the 16% on my school newspaper, it's also on BSR (ya ya unreliable source whatever, but i find the odds really low that BSR and my school newspaper are both wrong at the same time)</p>
<p>Is the hotchkiss newspaper online? Also, does it only quote a rate, or actually provide a breakdown of applications and acceptances?</p>
<p>no...sucks to say that our newspaper (the records) is rated one of the worst school newspaper ...my econ teacher trashes it all the time..and it really does suck lol...they never meet the publish deadlines and it's like published on random dates too...</p>
<p>i just tried googling it but it's not there...the name of our school newspaper is "The record"</p>