So here is the situation, I had a B in AP Literature, and i really want to keep myself on B, so I did something that I really regret about, which is I cheated. today I got caught cheated on paper for a small part on copying the sparknotes and I got caught on cheated on quiz. Another one is that I got caught on writing in class essay (still writing after time is called) And he regarded it as cheating. The teacher is very disappointted, after I got caught I realized how stupid I’m and made such big mistake during the last year of high school and its on my behavior now. I cried in front of him, apologized, explained my motivations and asked for forgiveness. He noted 3times “cheating” in the grade report. He gave me zeros on the quiz instead of failing the course, and he also said he will report to the vice principal. Now i felt my life is ruined by my stupidness or sins. I realized college might be 100% rate reject me because of that. I had straight A in junior year, and 4.14 GPA overall. I really want to get into UCs
I feel very frustrated and disappointed, what should I do? Will school kick me out or report it through the transcript? Will colleges see my senior year grades and ask me why I get a C or cheated on this? Currently I’m taking Ap Lit© AP Calc BC(A), AP Physics 2 (A), AP Art(A), Gov(B+), Bible( B+) Drama(A)
One C will not automatically cause you to be rejected by the colleges on your list. Stop worrying about that.
You need to meet with your school’s counseling office, and come up with a plan to get yourself through the rest of the school year. Your parents probably need to meet with your counselor too. Four hours of sleep at night is not enough. At your age you need eight or nine. If it means that you have to drop a class that isn’t required for graduation from your high school, well so be it. At the rate you are going, you will end up sick.
The UCs are hard to get into. Be sure to have some solid match and safety schools on your list too.
NEWSFLASH: you are not the only student who is sleep-deprived in their senior year with the same pressures. Everyone applying is under the same amount of pressure and some have it worse: they may have to work, take care of their sick/ill parents, live in poor conditions, etc.
Instead of dealing with the grade, you cheated. Not once, but you didn’t have a problem doing it again.
I’m confused. What do you want people to say?
Since UC’s dont look at your senior year grades, it really wont affect you much in the admissions process. Later on however, when you have to send your official high school transcript to the college of your choice in july, they will notice the C in Lit. Personally I would wait, until you hear back from colleges and wen your deciding on what college to go to, you should call the admissions office and ask if the C in Lit is ok. After all, you would rather want to know in April when you still have the choice to pick other colleges rather than in August when the college might rescend you and you have nowhere to go.
I don’t think the solution is to post repetitive threads on this site. I’m guessing this isn’t your first episode of cheating but the first time you got caught. Your English is not at a very high level. How have you gotten through your writing classes? Has it been by cheating in various ways? You should probably talk with your parents and have a meeting with your parents and your guidence counselor. It is not the end of the world but it is a wake up call to you. Have the meeting and figure out with your parents and guidence counselor how to proceed. It may be a wake up call to stop trying to present yourself in a way that does not reflect your true self. You probably need to stop trying to look like some sort of over achiever. Take it down a few notches!
You cheated 3 times?
Ouch.
This seems to me like part of a much larger problem, not a mere “error in judgment.” Crying, asking for forgiveness-- none of this outweighs the fact that this wasn’t a mistake, it was apparently a pattern.
You need to talk to the vice principal right now. Find out if this cheating incident is going into your guidance counselor’s letter of recommendation to the colleges. I assume you were not/will not be suspended (which is what might have happened) since your punishment was zeros for the grade. (You would have been required to report it to the colleges if you had been suspended). So it sounds like you are being given a second chance for your clear remorse. Hopefully, it won’t go into the guidance counselor’s letter and all you have is a C, which is a pretty generous outcome.
One C shouldn’t kill your chances at the UCs since they don’t include senior year grades - although I believe your admission can be revoked for a C so you may have to be in touch to explain the situation. Check their rules on rescinding admission.
We all screw up sometimes. We all hope for mercy which it looks like you got. The best outcome is that you learned something about yourself when you are under pressure. The difference between people who make it and life’s losers is that the latter never do learn from their mistakes. They just keep making the same mistake over and over. (The rest of us move on to making new and better mistakes!)
Are you an international student? It’s more difficult for international and OOS students to get into CA schools. See your guidance counselor for advice and make sure you have academic and financial safeties on your list.
Honestly, you cheated 3 times, that’s more than a “slip up”. All you can do is hope that the vice principal doesn’t put this down on a disciplinary report. I hope you realize that you’re not the only one who is very stressed out and that cheating is never the answer. Cheating in college will come with way worse consequences.
I never cheated in English before, I did only 3 only in Ap Lit and I got caught. I’m pretty sure my judgement went wrong.
But I never cheated in English before, only these 3 times I cheated and I got caught. The quiz one is that the teacher have students to grade their own quiz. I was tempted to change the answers.
Your answer shows you haven’t learned anything.
You’re trying to find excuses for your behaviour.
The fact you seemed to think crying and asking for forgiveness would make a teacher not punish you for at least two (if not three) egregious offenses.
You are LUCKY if all you get is a C and you’re applying to a uc: only your final grade will matter and there’s no counselor report if you weren’t under disciplinary action.
However for other colleges (commonapp ) the counselor may well mention it.
Also remember that a couple Bs are okay in advanced classes and certainly no reason to cheat.
If you can’t do the work, you take the grade that reflects w ha t you can do, and if that’s a B, so be it. Much better than being blackballed for cheating.
If you’re an international student, please realize cheating and lying are huge No-Nos in the US. The way things work here, people are expected to tell the truth. But if that trust is betrayed the co nd sequences are swift and severe. Do you want to know how many thousands are expelled each year for cheating?
Pretty much every senior is stressed, but you’re trying to justify your cheating. And you cheated not once, but three times. That looks really bad, be thankful that you’ll have a C instead of a fail in AP lit. Saying that you cheated “only these 3 times”- this didn’t sound like a mistake, didn’t you learn from the consequences the first time? You acknowledge that you made a big mistake, but are you remorseful because you know that cheating is wrong or because you got caught?
It sounds like you have too much on your plate and that this incident was the result of a lot of stress and pressure that’s been building up for a while. In addition to working this out with your guidance counselor, you need reexamine your priorities and focus on taking care of yourself. Like a previous poster said, your health comes first; if you need to drop a class to win back two hours of sleep, I think it would be worth it.
^I would strongly recommend you do that, actually - drop a class to get those extra two hours of sleep and less stress.
Of course, now, that class CANNOT be AP Lit.
@beastjason1234 Simple - own up to it. Do not do it again. You should be lucky that you got a C - cheating in college can be punished with anything from a failing grade on the assignment to expulsion from the university, depending on the severity.
Also, do not post many threads on the same topic.
“Only three times” is a pattern.
Getting caught isn’t the issue. Cheating, and then using the word “only” with respect to an ongoing pattern of cheating, is the issue.
And, I’m sorry, but I don’t buy the “poor me, I’m so stressed” argument. The measure of a man or a woman is what they do when they know no one’s looking. What you did was cheat-- three times.
Want to talk stress? Try any sentence that includes the words “biopsy” or “radiation.”
Your “very serious issue” is not about your disciplinary record. It’s about the choices you continue to make and to defend.
The reason “he regarded it as cheating” was because you cheated.
I guess you’re hoping that a second thread on the same subject will bring on different opinions than the first?
You are going to have to apply to schools that do not ask for disciplinary history. Look at state schools and mid-level privates that use their own application and don’t require recommendations.