Help with football recruit

<p>My son has been recruited by several schools(NESCAC) some have giving him the go ahead to go ed1 which was yesterday. Another school said they are waiting for admissions he is between a c and b band which we think is the early read from the coach not admissions. but they will not know for sure until admissions reads the app. All there C bands are taken. He was told from other schools he is a B band. We feel the latter of the schools is the perfect fit. But do you go with the school that said it's a go. Which by the way when we called admissions yesterday they couldn't find his application. So we're on hold till monday with that school.
Why are some coaches saying it's a go and some say they really can't say for sure.
I am not sure who to believe.
It's scary to put your sons future out there like this.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.</p>

<p>I think it comes down to how much wiggle room athletics has with admissions which can vary widely by school. It also depends on how much they want to fight for a particular recruit.</p>

<p>Admissions stats for NESCAC schools vary a fair amount.</p>

<p>I think all of the NESCAC schools - other than Williams and Amherst which only have ED1 - have ED 2. So that might be an option for your son.</p>

<p>Thanks I am sure we will sort it out.</p>

<p>Good luck and let us know how it turns out. My sis is looking at playing sports for a few NESCAC schools too.</p>

<p>If your son is a B or C band athlete, he will need to be admitted ED at any NESCAC. They all fill those slots during ED. Regular admissions is only for athletes who meet the middle or higher of the general profile of the school.</p>

<p>If your son's first choice has open B slots and they believe he is a B kid, go with it, especially if it is ED1, as you will get a potential 2nd bite at the apple with ED2.</p>

<p>Can you please explain "B or C band"? My D is an athlete going ED to a NESCAC school and I've never heard of this. Thanks!</p>

<p>My mind is kind of foggy but it has to do with how many standard deviations one's academic score (formula consisting of GPA + test scores) is below the average for a school. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong here. C Band students are generally in the bottom 5 to 10 percentile of admittees.</p>

<p>I found this thread that explains it (kind of).</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/bowdoin-college/398624-athletics-bowdoin.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/bowdoin-college/398624-athletics-bowdoin.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Is this true for women's sports too?</p>

<p>NESCAC rules apply both to womens and mens teams.</p>

<p>If yours is a recruited athlete, hopefully you will have this discussion with the coach as to where the athlete fits.</p>

<p>temh - I'm not sure what you mean by the coaches telling you it's a go. Hasn't the ED deadline passed already? Are they saying there's some flexibility in the deadline as it pertains to your son, and they want him to apply ASAP? From everything I've read and heard, most NESCAC coaches can't guaranty he will be admitted, but they should know the likelihood of admission, given his stats and the qualifications of the other players on the coach's tip list - so you should ask the coach specific questions about that. </p>

<p>A school that calls your son a B band admit and has B slots open seems like a pretty safe bet. To me, that sounds much better than a school that says he might be a C band and there are no C slots left, but go ahead and apply anyway. This sounds like they're encouraging him but aren't going to be able to do much to get him in. I'd be skeptical.</p>

<p>Be sure to read that thread from Bowdoin linked above. I thought it was pretty informative.</p>

<p>fauxmom-Coaches do have some room after ED1 passes. As far as the bands go His first choice was saying he is between b&c band and will not know until admissions see's whole app.
They have no c band's left to support him. So if he fell into the c band he basically gave up his shot to his 2nd choice for ed1. That being said we felt his 1st choice was perfect and I really like the coaches. My S never really let them know how much he wanted to be there.
I feel all there slots are gone.
The coach from his first choice said he was there top recruit so why not push for him to be in the B band.
It's hard to understand the whole process.We are learning the hard way how to play the game.
Be careful coaches do talk to other coaches about their recruits.</p>

<p>Your D might not need support from the coaches to get into the school. She falls into a catagory A- being very little help from coaches,B-She needs the support of the coaches,C-they basically have to push for the athlete with admissions. I know each sport has diff. amounts of bands for athletes. I think football might have the most at 14. Baseball I think only has 2 or 3. Ask the coaches if they are supporting her app.</p>

<p>temh - It sounds like he's decided to go with the gamble of the first choice. If it is a great fit, that's a reasonable decision. Just be sure the coach knows that your son loves the school/team and is putting a lot of trust in him by giving up the chance to apply to his second choice. That might make him work harder to get him in, especially if he's really the top recruit. Good luck to him!</p>

<p>FauxNom- His first choice which was the one that said he was between b and c band said it was too late for ED1. They're one of the schools that wanted him but could not guarantee spot unless he fell into B band with admisssions.Our feeling is they filled his position. I just wish they would say that.Instead the coach said we understand if you go to another school.He needs to decide to go choice 2 or hold out. He still has some Ivies in touch with him.Which is totally confusing. I thought there ED was on Nov 1.
Thanks for your input.</p>

<p>Just make sure to keep discussing other options with son while waiting for official decision from admissions. I know two athletes in two different sports that were courted by D1 coaches and told of great chances they would have in admission if they applied ED in one case and EA in another. Coaches really wanted these athletes, but didn't have as much pull with admissions office as they had indicated. Both students were shocked when they were rejected and had to scramble to come up with other opportunities. Nothing is guaranteed until you have a letter from the admissions office.</p>

<p>Football recruiting seems so stressful.</p>

<p>A few paragraphs from an article in today's Cleveland Plain Dealer:</p>

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Mentor senior defensive end Ben Pike thought the recruiting process ended last month when he made an oral commitment to Eastern Michigan. Instead, he is tucking away his frustration and heading to Kent State today in the hopes of getting another offer. </p>

<p>Eastern Michigan coaches rescinded their football scholarship offer to Pike last week because they wanted to offer it to another player, Pike and Mentor coach Steve Trivisonno said. Pike initially received the offer during the summer and accepted, making a nonbinding oral commitment to EMU last month.

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<p>Spurned</a> Pike seeks scholarship - Cleveland.com</p>

<p>Mini Van-Thank you this what I keep telling our S. Things are still rolling in. I think he has to keep his options open.It's a business for these coaches.It's not done till the letter of acceptance comes in.</p>

<p>Great info, very informative</p>

<p>It would be very helpful if CC had an athletic recruiting subforum.</p>