<p>Well you still have to compete with Jr and Sr and if they have waited this long for an R1B than they might get desperate to fulfill it before graduation, but there is so many IF’S that you might gamble…haha welcome to why people hate telebears so much.</p>
<p>damn…but hopefully they’ll pick a R1B that doesn’t start at 8am. 
And I thought mostly freshmen and sophomores took R1A and R1B? If the upperclassmen are truly lazy, they wouldn’t pick a class that “early”…right?!</p>
<p>At 8am? Then Phase II the class. However check to see the enrollment of the class every day or so to see how it fills up and if it is close to filling than you can always switch with a class you phased I during open hours.</p>
<p>what’s better, discussion or lecture?</p>
<p>Thanks, calbear. :D</p>
<p>Er…I assume you’d have to enroll in both discussion and lecture for the credit. And a lab section, if that applies.</p>
<p>I think I’m catching on
But does it matter what lab class I take as long as the course title is the same or what? Sorry I’m a total newbie</p>
<p>Find your courses in the general catalog and look at class format. Should say how many hrs. a week of lecture, lab, discussion, seminar, blah blah.
[General</a> Catalog - Course Search](<a href=“http://osoc.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_menu]General”>http://osoc.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_menu)</p>
<p>Hmmm, I think there’s errors though; I just looked up one class I was interested in and it doesn’t mention that a discussion included. Well, if you look up classes on the Fall 2009 schedule ([Search</a> Fall - Online Schedule Of Classes](<a href=“http://schedule.berkeley.edu/srchfall.html]Search”>http://schedule.berkeley.edu/srchfall.html)), it’ll list all of the sections. You should sign up for one section of lecture, one section of discussion (if applicable), one section of lab (if applicable). Yeah, look at the course title. I don’t think I explained this too well…not completely sure either, I’m also an incoming freshman.</p>
<p>aeboi - some of the sections are tied together. For example, there might be two different versions of the main class, the lecture. Lets say the first is numbered 001, the second is numbered 002. There are a number of discussion sections starting at 100 and ascending, then another group starting with 200 and ascending. If you sign up for the first lecture section, 001, then you can only pick from the discussions numbered 1xx. You can usually see the pattern in the numbering of discussions and/or labs. </p>
<p>Other times, even though there are more than once lecture choices, all the discussions are open to anyone. The discussion numbers just run sequentially from 100 upwards, no 2xx or 3xx or . . .</p>
<p>thanks, that was a good explanation</p>
<p>what does “Restrictions: By Category” mean?</p>
<p>Anyone recommendations for a R&C B course? I’m leaning towards Philosophy 25 (Greek Phil). Any comments on that?</p>
<p>aeboi - some classes are straightforward. If you are qualified and there are still open seats, you can register. Others have restricted registration into several pools each with their own maximums. Usually this is done to establish a fairer shot for attendance.</p>
<p>So, for example, a class may have four categories:</p>
<p>Open - anyone can register into this category if a space is open</p>
<p>Majors only - you can register in this category if you are officially in that major, whicih usually happens about two years into your time at Cal. If not in the major, the open spaces are not available for your registration</p>
<p>New entrants - these slots give a chance for entering freshmen or transfers to get into a class, all others can’t use these slots</p>
<p>Instructor approval - these slots each require their own custom code for registration, which would be provided by the instructor to a student. Rather than registering with the course entry code (CEC) that everyone can see, you put in your unique CEC to take the slot offered to you</p>
<p>Now, when you go onto telebears, you don’t actually apply to a category. If you enter the general class CEC, telebears sees if you fit into the restricted categories, such as “majors only”, and if they have openings you are registered with that categories space decremented to reflect your attendance. If you have an instructor provided CEC, use that and your registration will decrement the ‘instructor approval’ count. If you don’t fit any of the categories except ‘open’, but there is still space left, you are registered and the ‘open’ count is decremented. If there is not space in the category(s) to which you are qualified, you can waitlist as long as the waitlist size has not reached maximum for the category yet.</p>
<p>This is why you will see some classes listing openings but also having a waitlist. Another hypothetical, a class with room for 150 students and currently 103 are enrolled and 25 are on the waitlist with a max of 25. This happened because the 25 on the waitlist did not qualify for one of the categories that still has open slots. </p>
<p>The situation in the paragraph above also occurs when there is room in the main lecture, like our case of 103 enrolled of 150, but the required discussion sessions are all full. Since you can’t get into a discussion session and have to waitlist it, you are also waitlisted for the main lecture.</p>
<p>I don’t know how it’ll work with the new phase-II cap on units, but generally, it is advisable to sign up for two R&C courses, go to both, drop the one where you think the GSI is a dick or whatever.</p>
<p>how is History of Art?</p>
<p>How easy is it to test out of the second half of the R&C requirement? I’m planning in major in either English or Rhetoric, so I imagine I will have written a ton of papers by Junior year. Would it be wise to plan to test out, or should I just take an R1B class next semester?</p>
<p>"You may satisfy both halves of the R&C requirement with one of the following scores or grades:</p>
<pre><code>* Advanced Placement Exam in English Literature and Composition - 5
- International Baccalaureate Higher Level Examination in English Language A credential examination - 5
- GCE (General Certificate of Education) “A” Level English Exam - Grade of A, B, or C "
</code></pre>
<p>[Degree</a> Requirements-Reading and Composition Requirement](<a href=“http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirements/rc.html]Degree”>Reading & Composition | L&S Advising)</p>
<p>Not sure if they even allow you to take AP or IB after you’re in college…and I don’t think getting a 5 on AP Lit is terribly easy. You could also take an “equivalent” course elsewhere or waive the second half:</p>
<p>" * Juniors and Seniors - Qualified juniors and seniors may petition for a waiver of the second half of the R&C requirement. To seek a waiver, a student must:
1. be at least a junior (60 or more units completed)
2. have satisfied the first half of the requirement
3. have an overall grade-point average of at least 3.3
4. submit a written rationale for waiving the second half of the requirement along with two or more essays (with the instructor’s comments and grade) written for upper division courses completed at Berkeley; at least 10 pages of written work must be submitted in support of the petition for a waiver.
The essays are evaluated according to the highest standards of college writing. Students are advised that the grade given for a paper that was not written for a course primarily focused on instruction in composition is not a reliable indicator of the outcome of a request for a waiver. "</p>
<p>Whoops, by test out I meant waive. Yes, I’ve seen that page, but is the actual process of waiving the second half easy or wise?</p>
<p>How are Slavic Languages and Literature (R5A), Italian Studies (R5A), and the South and Southeast Asian Studies (R5A) classes like? In terms of quality and easiness? Rate prof didnt help much.</p>
<p>Thanks :)</p>
<p>bumpzzzzzz</p>
<p>bumpp???</p>
<p>i took rhetoric 1a and am taking english r1b right now. there’s only 1 lecture/discussion combined and like 15-20 people in the class.</p>
<p>both classes have a lot of reading and you have to participate but i would say english is easier and has more straightforward essays than rhetoric…</p>